Originally posted by richardfinegold
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New Year concert/VPO nyd fwm
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostPetroc did explain - but I've forgotten what the explanation was. He did say something along the lines of it being an example of Austrian humour, which could be a bit, well, serious
I think he said they were "presents", and that FWM was being "Father Christmas".
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Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View PostFor that, you might have to suggest Russell Watson, Alfie Boe or Katherine Jenkins.Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
Mark Twain.
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Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostOh yes, that's right. Were they being given to the soloists in that item?
It was quite amusing to watch but it was all done a bit stiffly as if it had been carefully rehearsed. I guess it is a case of humour not necessarily travelling well!
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Originally posted by Prommer View PostWell, Kleiber always had great respect for this music, imbibed from his father who taught him that it was the most difficult of all to conduct. His love of 'waltz' music, whether of J. or R. Strauss, was pronounced. Karajan, too, would have had no issues. Barenboim struggled last time, in my view. He has the personal vision and approach for this music, and is bold enough with tempi, but the schwung and the geist eludes him.
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'You know, za problem wiz all zat Strauss is it all sounds za same,' he said in his thick Austro-German accent. 'I had no idea which piece was which. Zo I put down a downbeat, waited for it to start and then I thought oh yes, it's zis one, off ve go!'Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....
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Originally posted by Il Grande Inquisitor View Post
'You know, za problem wiz all zat Strauss is it all sounds za same,' he said in his thick Austro-German accent. 'I had no idea which piece was which. Zo I put down a downbeat, waited for it to start and then I thought oh yes, it's zis one, off ve go!'
I'm sure NYDC fans will remember when Karajan started to conduct the wrong piece in 1987 (Blue Danube instead of the polka Ohne Sorgen) much to the merriment of all including the maestro himself. The issued video/DVD edited it out which was a great shame as it was a lovely moment."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
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Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
I'm sure NYDC fans will remember when Karajan started to conduct the wrong piece in 1987 (Blue Danube instead of the polka Ohne Sorgen) much to the merriment of all including the maestro himself. The issued video/DVD edited it out which was a great shame as it was a lovely moment.
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The difference between Kleiber and Karajan, and the present lot, is that the old stagers attempted to conduct the concert from memory. To do this absolutely faultlessly, even after the two preceding concerts for practice at the end of December, was no mean feat - and the trickiest bit was not remembering the pieces themselves but the running order!
I suspect this is the reason for CK's comments and for Karajan's boob. Good on them for trying!
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