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  • Hornspieler
    Late Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1847

    Royal Performance at the Barbican

    After the cacophany of Maxwell Davis' Fanfare for the Queen, I was looking forward to hearing the Tchaikovsky violin concerto played by the famous Maxim Vengerov.

    My God! What has happened to this man? Is this the result of his dabbling with "popular" music and showmanship? The man cannot play in tune. His intonation, especially in the 1st movement cadenza is appalling. Also some very careless playing throughout the succeeding movements.

    Two nights ago, Her Majesty had to sit through a boring 2½ hours of Royal Command Performance. Now, not even being a devotee of classical music, she has to suffer this.

    Not good enough, Mr Vengerov. I've heard this concerto played better by a fifteen year old student at a schools orchestra summer course.

    HS
    Last edited by Hornspieler; 05-12-12, 20:46. Reason: additional thoughts
  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6474

    #2
    I've always felt the Tchaikovsky needs a feminine touch.

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37851

      #3
      Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
      Two nights ago, Her Majesty had to sit through a boring 2½ hours of Royal Command Performance. Now, not even being a devotee of classical music, she has to suffer this.
      You quite sure about that, HS? I seem to remember Sir Peter Maxwell Davies, when he became Master of the Queen's Music, saying that Her Majesty had said to him words to the effect that neither she nor Prince Philip were the philistines they were made out to be in the press.

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      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6474

        #4
        Finding it hard to get into a rather soul free Enigma.

        Or was it just the prize nonsense that dulled the musical appetite ?

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12329

          #5
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Or was it just the prize nonsense that dulled the musical appetite ?
          Pretty much why I avoided this concert. Comments so far would seem to indicate the right decision.

          HS may rightly complain about so few listeners to the evening concerts but with so many dozens of unheard CD's awaiting audition since the summer and the need to make maximum use of my free time I look very carefully at what is on offer and decide accordingly. Next week looks quite promising.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6474

            #6
            Very wise Pet, you missed absolutely nothing.

            Is it me or have LSO concerts gone a bit stale of late ?

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12329

              #7
              Originally posted by Alison View Post
              Very wise Pet, you missed absolutely nothing.

              Is it me or have LSO concerts gone a bit stale of late ?
              Sir Colin Davis was originally slated to do this concert, Alison, so perhaps the LSO felt out of sorts. How is Sir Colin, anyone know?

              Perhaps the LSO need a new music director to rejuvenate them.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • amateur51

                #8
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                Sir Colin Davis was originally slated to do this concert, Alison, so perhaps the LSO felt out of sorts. How is Sir Colin, anyone know?

                Perhaps the LSO need a new music director to rejuvenate them.
                The Barbican website says that as a result of his recent illness Sir Colin's doctors have advised him to cancel engagement up to Christmas.

                I confess that I have been to only a very few Gergiev/LSO concerts since the beginning of their partnership. Occasionally it seems they catch fire but more often the maestro's hectic schedule gets in the way. I wonder when Gergiev's current contact runs out?
                Last edited by Guest; 06-12-12, 11:42. Reason: trypo

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #9
                  Maybe it isGergiev's hectic schedule, is the reason for this? Too many commttments, perhaps?
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • alywin
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 376

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                    My God! What has happened to this man? Is this the result of his dabbling with "popular" music and showmanship? The man cannot play in tune. His intonation, especially in the 1st movement cadenza is appalling. Also some very careless playing throughout the succeeding movements.
                    He *did* retune after the first movement. But yes, I agree, I was thinking "I've heard you play this much better in the past".

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12329

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      Maybe it isGergiev's hectic schedule, is the reason for this? Too many commttments, perhaps?
                      In terms of quality programming and exciting music making I'd say that Jurowski and the LPO have the edge right now. Gergiev is fine in Russian music but variable elsewhere. Jurowski's Brahms and Mahler have been much praised along with his Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev and much else. There's a great example on R3 next Wednesday when the LPO and Jurowski can be heard in Mahler 5 preceded by a song cycle by Gerard Grisey (a name new to me).
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • amateur51

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                        In terms of quality programming and exciting music making I'd say that Jurowski and the LPO have the edge right now. Gergiev is fine in Russian music but variable elsewhere. Jurowski's Brahms and Mahler have been much praised along with his Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev and much else. There's a great example on R3 next Wednesday when the LPO and Jurowski can be heard in Mahler 5 preceded by a song cycle by Gerard Grisey (a name new to me).
                        I agree - Jurowski & LPO are well worth catching .. and there a several recordings of their 'live' performances available http://www.lpo.org.uk/shop/cd_catalogue.html

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26575

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          In terms of quality programming and exciting music making I'd say that Jurowski and the LPO have the edge right now. Gergiev is fine in Russian music but variable elsewhere. Jurowski's Brahms and Mahler have been much praised along with his Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev and much else. There's a great example on R3 next Wednesday when the LPO and Jurowski can be heard in Mahler 5 preceded by a song cycle by Gerard Grisey (a name new to me).
                          And I'm going to hear them a week tonight in Bruckner 1, a work I don't really know at all (it's never emerged from my Jochum/Dresden box)...
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • RobertLeDiable

                            #14
                            It's fairly well known (well I thought it was) that Vengerov injured his shoulder about four years ago and had to give up playing. He took up conducting instead. Recently he seems to have decided to return to playing and has been giving 'come-back' concerts all over the place. He sounded pretty ropey the other night, so clearly he hasn't quite found his old form yet. Perhaps he should have avoided high-profile appearances until he's back to his old self.

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