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  • Hornspieler
    Late Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1847

    Dvorak, Chopin and Schmidt Friday 23rd at 7.30pm

    Live from The Bridgewater Hall, Manchester

    Presented by Petroc Trelawny





    The BBC Philharmonic, conducted by Vassily Sinaisky, performs Dvorak's Carnival Overture, Chopin's Piano Concerto No 2 with Daniil Trifonov, and Schmidt's Symphony No 4.

    Dvorak: Carnival Overture
    Chopin: Piano Concerto No 2 in F minor
    INTERVAL
    Schmidt's Symphony No 4.


    Daniil Trifonov (piano)
    BBC Philharmonic
    Vassily Sinaisky (conductor)

    Meet Franz Schmidt, last of the Austrian Romantics. As storm clouds gathered over his native Austria, Schmidt poured a lifetime of heartbreak into his beautiful Fourth Symphony; music of profound emotion, glorious melody and some of the most tender poetry in 20th century music. Prize-winning 21-year-old virtuoso Daniil Trifonov is the perfect soloist for Chopin's youthful Second Concerto. Dvorak's colourful and exuberant overture starts the evening

    Sounds like a firm of East European Estate Agents. - but Vassily Sinaisky and the BBC Philharmonic are a combination that are always worth a hearing.

    HS
  • amateur51

    #2
    It will be my fist chance to listen to Daniil Trifonov who has won first prize in the Chopin, Rubinstein and Tchaikovsky Piano competitions and from the youtube evidence does appear to be a remarkable pianist, an artist in the making

    Daniil Trifonov performs Chopin - 10 etudes op. 10 at the Arthur Rubinstein Piano Master Competition (March, 2012, Tel Aviv). Since its inception in 1974, th...

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    • Hornspieler
      Late Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1847

      #3
      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      It will be my fist chance to listen to Daniil Trifonov who has won first prize in the Chopin, Rubinstein and Tchaikovsky Piano competitions and from the youtube evidence does appear to be a remarkable pianist, an artist in the making

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izIMf9-pQGk
      I found the Schmidt's Symphony No 4 interesting, but I would certainly not consider adding it to my collection of symphonic music. Fine playing though - especially by the Principal Trumpet and the Principal Horn (has Jonathan Goodall retired?)

      Yes Daniil Trifonov is a fine pianist. I only wished that we could have heard him in a concerto which is not as lightweight (I almost wrote "trivial") as Chopin's Nº 2. A very impressive encore!

      Carnival overture was exciting and, at the same time, accurate. No more than I would have expected from the superb alliance of Sinaisky with the BBC Philharmonic.

      Worth a hearing, but I won't be looking for more works by Franz Schmidt.

      HS

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      • John Shelton

        #4
        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
        I found the Schmidt's Symphony No 4 interesting, but I would certainly not consider adding it to my collection of symphonic music. Fine playing though - especially by the Principal Trumpet and the Principal Horn (has Jonathan Goodall retired?)

        Yes Daniil Trifonov is a fine pianist. I only wished that we could have heard him in a concerto which is not as lightweight (I almost wrote "trivial") as Chopin's Nº 2. A very impressive encore!

        Carnival overture was exciting and, at the same time, accurate. No more than I would have expected from the superb alliance of Sinaisky with the BBC Philharmonic.

        Worth a hearing, but I won't be looking for more works by Franz Schmidt.

        HS
        I don't see that Chopin's concerto is "lightweight" - it adapts certain precursors with some boldness, and has its own considerable poetry and distinctiveness. I'd like to hear Trifonov in solo Chopin where, sure, there's greater exploration and daring.

        It makes a change to find something that isn't constantly on orchestral programmes / R3. But Schmidt's music has an air of the ... unnecessary to me, given the wonderful innovations of the contemporaneous European avant-garde.

        Have UK orchestras entered into a pact to play something by Dvořák every concert? I wish they'd stop.

        More generally; any chance of a concert of Medieval / or Renaissance vocal music, a harpsichord recital, some C17 music, some rare baroque music (or some baroque music at all. Some Bach would be so welcome), a fortepiano recital, a string quartet with an imaginative repertoire, some contemporary music, some free improv in these 'live' evening slots? They are so grindingly predictable and ... well, pointless. There is other music out there, it's not all C19 / early C20 orchestral music (especially not the New World Symphony).

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26575

          #5
          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
          Yes Daniil Trifonov is a fine pianist. I only wished that we could have heard him in a concerto which is not as lightweight (I almost wrote "trivial") as Chopin's Nº 2.
          Chopin's "No. 1" for example... I have to agree about No 2, it's always a disappointment for me, beside the other one which I love. I think 'lightweight' is the right word, HS, and there is that terrible, crass modulation into the major towards the end of the last movement which I dread!!

          I didn't spot the RPO doing this programme in the UK, from the Montreux Festival in Switzerland this summer.... had I done (or had they done), I'd have been there like a shot.

          THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 19h30, AUDITORIUM STRAVINSKI, MONTREUX

          Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
          Charles Dutoit, conductor
          Daniil Trifonov, piano

          Ottorino Respighi - Fountains of Rome

          Sergei Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto N° 3 in D minor

          Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony N° 5 in C minor op. 67




          Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 24-11-12, 12:23.
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Roehre

            #6
            Originally posted by Hey Nonymous View Post
            More generally; any chance of a concert of Medieval / or Renaissance vocal music..
            Coming Monday :

            Live from St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge

            Presented by Catherine Bott

            A mass and motets in honour of St Cecilia, patron saint of musicians, performed by the BBC Singers and Peter Phillips

            Orlande de Lassus: Musica Dei donum optimi; Cantantibus organis
            Ferdinand de Lassus: Caecilia virgo

            Guillaume de Costeley: Allon, gays bergeres; Mignonne, allons voir

            Orlande de Lassus: Domine Jesu Christe qui cognoscis
            George de la Hèle: Nonne Deo subiecta evit anima mea

            Francisco Guerrero: Dum aurora finem daret
            Jean Maillard: Domine Jesu Christe, Pastor bone
            G P Palestrina: Dum aurora finem daret

            Peter Philips: Cecilia virgo; Cantantibus organis

            G P da Palestrina:
            Motet: Cantantibus organis

            Palestrina and others: Missa cantantibus organis

            Pierre de Manchicourt: Cantantibus organis
            Luca Marenzio: Cantantibus organis

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            • John Shelton

              #7
              Originally posted by Roehre View Post
              Coming Monday :

              Live from St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge

              Presented by Catherine Bott

              A mass and motets in honour of St Cecilia, patron saint of musicians, performed by the BBC Singers and Peter Phillips

              Orlande de Lassus: Musica Dei donum optimi; Cantantibus organis
              Ferdinand de Lassus: Caecilia virgo

              Guillaume de Costeley: Allon, gays bergeres; Mignonne, allons voir

              Orlande de Lassus: Domine Jesu Christe qui cognoscis
              George de la Hèle: Nonne Deo subiecta evit anima mea

              Francisco Guerrero: Dum aurora finem daret
              Jean Maillard: Domine Jesu Christe, Pastor bone
              G P Palestrina: Dum aurora finem daret

              Peter Philips: Cecilia virgo; Cantantibus organis

              G P da Palestrina:
              Motet: Cantantibus organis

              Palestrina and others: Missa cantantibus organis

              Pierre de Manchicourt: Cantantibus organis
              Luca Marenzio: Cantantibus organis

              http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nzpy7

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26575

                #8
                Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                Coming Monday :

                Live from St Paul's Church, Knightsbridge
                Lovely but a smidgeon off-topic perhaps...
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Roehre

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  Lovely but a smidgeon off-topic perhaps...
                  Only just a bit, Caliban, just a bit

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11763

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Chopin's "No. 1" for example... I have to agree about No 2, it's always a disappointment for me, beside the other one which I love. I think 'lightweight' is the right word, HS, and there is that terrible, crass modulation into the major towards the end of the last movement which I dread!!

                    I didn't spot the RPO doing this programme in the UK, from the Montreux Festival in Switzerland this summer.... had I done (or had they done), I'd have been there like a shot.

                    THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 19h30, AUDITORIUM STRAVINSKI, MONTREUX

                    Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
                    Charles Dutoit, conductor
                    Daniil Trifonov, piano

                    Ottorino Respighi - Fountains of Rome









                    Sergei Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto N° 3 in D minor

                    Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony N° 5 in C minor op. 67




                    I suggest you listen to your neighbour Tamas Vasary in this concerto ! - Far from a trivial or lightweight performance .

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                    • Hornspieler
                      Late Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1847

                      #11
                      The BBC Philharmonic, conducted by Vassily Sinaisky, performs Dvorak's Carnival Overture, Chopin's Piano Concerto No 2 with Daniil Trifonov, and Schmidt's Symphony No 4.
                      I really don't know why I bother!

                      "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to All Men"


                      Merry Christmas Everybody.



                      Hornspieler

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12332

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                        I really don't know why I bother!

                        "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to All Men"


                        Merry Christmas Everybody.



                        Hornspieler
                        To be fair, HS, this was a programme that I'd wager didn't have much appeal. It didn't have much appeal for me either and I wonder how many bums were on Bridgewater Hall seats on a dank November evening? I count myself as an admirer of both the BBCPO and Sinaisky but, frankly, this was duff programming and Mancunians deserve better.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Il Grande Inquisitor
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 961

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                          Sounds like a firm of East European Estate Agents. - but Vassily Sinaisky and the BBC Philharmonic are a combination that are always worth a hearing. [/COLOR]

                          HS
                          Sinaisky and the BBCPO are usually very fine - I especially like them in Russian repertoire. I've heard Daniil Trifonov's recent disc of Tchaikovsky 1, made with Gergiev & the Mariinsky Orchestra after winning the Tchaikovsky Prize and he's incredibly talented.

                          I've captured this for later listening, but as I've quite a workload on at the moment, it's doubtful I'll get time to listen properly for a while (the Bournemouth Sibelius/ Grieg/ Tchaik you recommended is similarly laying in wait for me...).
                          Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26575

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            I suggest you listen to your neighbour Tamas Vasary in this concerto ! - Far from a trivial or lightweight performance .
                            I have the copy he gave me, as well....
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by John Shelton View Post
                              I'd like to hear Trifonov in solo Chopin where, sure, there's greater exploration and daring.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUI90rbdUBU

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