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  • Daring Tripod
    • Jan 2025

    Ten greatest composers of the 20th Century

    There is an interesting article in the N.Y.T. which mentions 5 of the names the author selects who should be on the list http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...cut/?ref=music.
    The difficulty, I found, was to select the other five:
    Shostakovich, Messiean, Ligeti, Stockhausen, Vaughan Williams?
    Any views?
  • Uncle Monty

    #2
    These things are always impossible! The greatest, or the ones one enjoys most? This would probably be my list (today, at least) :

    Mahler
    Sibelius
    Shostakovich
    Vaughan Williams
    Debussy
    Bartok
    Ravel
    Prokofiev
    Webern
    Poulenc

    The last two slightly eccentric choices, I know, but I find Webern so cool, always such a palate-cleanser. And Poulenc makes me laugh

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    • Suffolkcoastal
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3297

      #3
      This sort of thing is very difficult indeed, as head and heart would give somewhat different lists and if depends which genre of 20th century music you prefer, and some composers have composed works outside of the 20th century and I have difficulty keeping it to 10 so 12 will have to do! Though these 12 do not include all of my favourite 20th century composers, I have well over 50, these are the ones I admire presently.

      Stravinsky
      Shostakovich
      Prokofiev
      Vaughan Williams
      Britten
      Copland
      Carter
      Bartok
      Martinu
      Sibelius
      Nielsen
      Tippett
      Last edited by Suffolkcoastal; 15-01-11, 12:29.

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      • rauschwerk
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1487

        #4
        This sort of thing is utterly pointless as far as I am concerned.

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        • Sydney Grew
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 754

          #5
          The list we first thought of differs entirely from the twelve of Member Coastal! - so let us add Sibelius as a thirteenth so as to have at least one name in common . . .

          Zemlinsky
          Szymanowski
          Tubin
          Schönberg
          Dvorak
          Schreker
          Delius
          Elgar
          Alwyn
          Scryabine
          Roslavets
          Goehr
          Sibelius

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          • Chris Newman
            Late Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2100

            #6
            I could not limit my appreciation of 20th Century composers to 10. Beginning with the lists so far from boarders I would need the following:


            Bartok
            Britten
            Carter
            Copland
            Debussy
            Delius
            Dvorak
            Elgar
            Mahler
            Martinu
            Messiaen
            Nielsen
            Poulenc
            Prokofiev
            Ravel
            Schönberg
            Schreker
            Shostakovich
            Sibelius
            Stravinsky
            Szymanowski
            Tippett
            Vaughan Williams
            Webern
            Zemlinsky

            I would also wish to have the following as composers I regard as of great importance:

            Arnold
            Ferneyhough
            Grainger
            Gershwin
            Ireland
            Ives
            Janacek
            Lindberg
            Puccini
            Strauss, Richard

            Just to show the pointlessness of such exercises I add the following who just happen to have names beginning with the letter "b". I could add another twenty five or more whom I admire and enjoy.

            Bax
            Beamish
            Benjamin
            Berg
            Berio
            Bingham
            Birtwistle
            Bliss
            Boulez
            Brian
            Bridge
            Busoni

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            • Threni

              #7
              It's obvious who my favourite composer is, but I am going to add two very neglected 20th Century composers who I admire greatly:

              Schnittke
              Kabalevsky

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              • salymap
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5969

                #8
                Shouldn't they be born and die in the 20th century? That makes it a lot harder.

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  #9
                  Originally posted by salymap View Post
                  Shouldn't they be born and die in the 20th century? That makes it a lot harder.
                  That might well help to narrow the field but would surely still leave it very hard to choose just ten; in any case, perhaps creative active mainly in the 20th century might be fairer (even though it cuts Mahler out), otherwise the earliest years of the century would fall out of the choosing process. If that approach is adopted, I still have no idea how I'd choose just 10. Here's a handful, nonetheless, in no particular order, of whom the first seven were born before the beginning of the 20th century and the last is still with us and still writing in this one:

                  Sibelius
                  Nielsen
                  Busoni
                  Schönberg
                  Szymanowski
                  Varèse
                  Sorabji
                  Shostakovich
                  Xenakis
                  Carter

                  That took ages!

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #10
                    Originally posted by salymap View Post
                    Shouldn't they be born and die in the 20th century? That makes it a lot harder.
                    if thats the criterion then

                    Shostakovitch
                    Cage
                    Stockhausen
                    Berio
                    Lucier
                    Britten
                    La Monte Young
                    Ligeti
                    Feldman
                    Xenakis

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20578

                      #11
                      Britten
                      Shostakovitch
                      Walton
                      Bartok
                      Elgar
                      Vaughan Williams
                      Puccini
                      Strauss
                      Stravinsky
                      Sibelius
                      Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 15-01-11, 21:21. Reason: Sibelius replaces Mathias. Mathias is good, but not that good.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #12
                        I am going to try and be objective in this.

                        Britten
                        Berio
                        Boulez
                        Xenakis
                        Stockhausen
                        Joihn Adams
                        Sibelius
                        Shostakovich
                        Messiaen
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • Quarky
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 2676

                          #13
                          The word "greatest" implies to me some degree of objectivity in the choice. However I note from the various choices that the Second Viennese School does not figure very highly, although their music must be considered objectively as one of the great advances of the 20th Century. May be they were just too serious.

                          Anyhow this is my list of 20th century composers I most enjoy:

                          1. Stravinsky
                          2. Shostakovich
                          3. Debussy
                          4. Duke Ellington
                          5. Schoenberg
                          6. Messiaen
                          7. Ligeti
                          8. Schnittke
                          9. RVW
                          10. Ravel

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                          • rauschwerk
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1487

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sydney Grew View Post
                            The list we first thought of differs entirely from the twelve of Member Coastal! - so let us add Sibelius as a thirteenth so as to have at least one name in common . . .

                            Zemlinsky, Szymanowski, Tubin, Schönberg, Dvorak, Schreker, Delius, Elgar, Alwyn, Scryabine, Roslavets, Goehr, Sibelius
                            Mr Grew neatly shows the pointlessness of this exercise with his entertainingly perverse selection. Since the phrase 'of the twentieth century' is undefined one can hardly argue with inclusion of Dvorak since his composing career did extend four years into that century.

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16123

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              if thats the criterion then

                              Shostakovitch
                              Cage
                              Stockhausen
                              Berio
                              Lucier
                              Britten
                              La Monte Young
                              Ligeti
                              Feldman
                              Xenakis
                              But several of those listed above did not die in the 20th century!

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