Holzmaier Dichterliebe

[gurnemanz]

Interesting Lieder recital coming up at lunchtime with Wolfgang Holzmair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jz3gg

Schumann's famous Heine settings + less well-known versions, including Suppé, Ives, Meyerbeer ..... and Kinkel. Who he? I thought, only to find out "he" was "she" and turns out to be a rather fascinating figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Kinkel

[AmpH]

Interesting Lieder recital coming up at lunchtime with Wolfgang Holzmair.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01jz3gg

Schumann's famous Heine settings + less well-known versions, including Suppé, Ives, Meyerbeer ..... and Kinkel. Who he? I thought, only to find out "he" was "she" and turns out to be a rather fascinating figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johanna_Kinkel

Thanks for the heads up on this guanemanz, especially Dichterliebe - Holzmair's recording with Imogen Cooper is one of my favourite recordings of this particular song cycle.

[Nick Armstrong]

Dichterliebe - Holzmair's recording with Imogen Cooper is one of my favourite recordings of this particular song cycle.

It's completely entrancing.

I wonder how the voice has fared since then... We shall hear!

[Pianorak]

Thanks for the heads up on this guanemanz, especially Dichterliebe - Holzmair's recording with Imogen Cooper is one of my favourite recordings of this particular song cycle.

Holzmair's and Olaf Baer's.

Hmmm, rather different from the recording with Imogen Cooper.

[AmpH]

Hmmm, rather different from the recording with Imogen Cooper.

I was thinking along similar lines. I intend to listen again to the recording with Imogen Cooper this weekend.

[Pianorak]

I was thinking along similar lines. I intend to listen again to the recording with Imogen Cooper this weekend.

Yes, so will I. - I didn't realize WH is 60 this year. Still a rather young and strong sounding voice. Could he have made it as a tenor? Not really into Lieder, but Dichterliebe moves me every time (with the exception of DFD - my loss, I know).

[AmpH]

Yes, so will I. - I didn't realize WH is 60 this year. Still a rather young and strong sounding voice. Could he have made it as a tenor? Not really into Lieder, but Dichterliebe moves me every time (with the exception of DFD - my loss, I know).

I was introduced to Dichterliebe at school as it was one of the works we studied for Music 'O' Level and have loved it ever since. The recording with Imogen Cooper was made 18 years ago. Apart from Holzmair, I have tended to listen mostly to Matthias Goerne or occaisonally for a Tenor, Ian Bostridge (though not one of his best recordings IMV ). More recently I have enjoyed Gerald Finley with Julius Drake. There is plenty of choice away from DFD.

[Pianorak]

I was introduced to Dichterliebe at school as it was one of the works we studied for Music 'O' Level and have loved it ever since. The recording with Imogen Cooper was made 18 years ago. Apart from Holzmair, I have tended to listen mostly to Matthias Goerne or occaisonally for a Tenor, Ian Bostridge (though not one of his best recordings IMV ). More recently I have enjoyed Gerald Finley with Julius Drake. There is plenty of choice away from DFD.

I was introduced to it by Ian Partridge and his sister's LP many years ago and was absolutely bowled over by it, although I prefer a baritone voice for Dichterliebe. I was very lucky to tape a live broadcast by Olaf Baer which literally had me wipe away a tear. Baer's commercial recording is excellent but not quite up there with that particular live broadcast. Must make an effort to find that tape.

Re today's Holzmair performance, I was quite struck by his (presumably) Austrian accent, in contrast to the commonly heard High-German. Or did I imagine it?

[gurnemanz]

Hmmm, rather different from the recording with Imogen Cooper.

Yes. He seemed to turn into the dwarf Mime when dramatic effect was required. There were certainly some pretty hair-raising moments such as his dream vision of the snake eating his lover's heart in "Ich grolle nicht". There was plenty to enjoy, though, and it was interesting to hear those rarities in the first half.

[JohnSkelton]

There is plenty of choice away from DFD.

This performance http://www.mdt.co.uk/brahms-lieder-a...ence-2cds.html with Jörg Demus is for me many streets ahead of the other D F-D recordings I've heard. Of remarkable intensity but without the superfluous heaviness of the recording with Eschenbach (I much prefer Demus's playing). For a tenor version I love Christoph Prégardien's with Andreas Staier playing a 'period' piano (Deutsche Harmonia Mundi). OOP, sadly http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lieder-Mende...0990824&sr=1-1. (Dichterliebe has also been an obsession of mine for decades).

[AmpH]

I was introduced to it by Ian Partridge and his sister's LP many years ago and was absolutely bowled over by it, although I prefer a baritone voice for Dichterliebe. I was very lucky to tape a live broadcast by Olaf Baer which literally had me wipe away a tear. Baer's commercial recording is excellent but not quite up there with that particular live broadcast. Must make an effort to find that tape.

Re today's Holzmair performance, I was quite struck by his (presumably) Austrian accent, in contrast to the commonly heard High-German. Or did I imagine it?

I can't recall ever having heard the Ian Partridge recording, although I think it may have been issued on a CfP CD at some point.

You weren't imagining Holzmair's accent - he is Austrian.

[amateur51]

I was introduced to Dichterliebe by a mesmerising recording by Gérard Souzay and Alfred Cortot that I bought second-hand for £2 in Cheap-Cheapo Records, Rupert Street in Soho in the early 1980s.

They can't take that way from me

[Pianorak]

. . . You weren't imagining Holzmair's accent - he is Austrian.

I knew he was Austrian (thanks, Wikipedia), but whatever the native tongue of a singer performing German lieder has hitherto sounded to me either fairly incomprehensible (eg Schwarzkopf) or standard German.

[gurnemanz]

I was introduced to Dichterliebe by a mesmerising recording by Gérard Souzay and Alfred Cortot that I bought second-hand for £2 in Cheap-Cheapo Records, Rupert Street in Soho in the early 1980s.

They can't take that way from me

I have a Souzay recording with Jacqueline Bonneau which I like very much. The first Dichterliebe recording I got to know was on a DG LP with Ernst Haefliger and Erik Werba. I remember loving it but it has vanished from my possession along the way and I haven't heard it for about 30 years. I might try and track it down if it's available.

[Tansy]

I attended this concert in 2010, and really appreciated the opportunity to re-live an evening that was more gripping than many at the opera!
At the time I wondered whether the variety of alternative settings would manage to gel; they did. I also wondered whether Dichterliebe itself would sound over-familiar by comparison; it didn’t.