RLPO Live on 2nd May, Brahms and Beethoven

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  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    RLPO Live on 2nd May, Brahms and Beethoven

    RLPO conducted Vasily Petrenko, soloist in the Brahms Andreas Haefliger.

    Brahms Piano Concerto no 1 in D minor

    Beethoven Symphony no 5 in C minor

    I only heard the Brahms, except I couldn't hear it. Whether tireness, tinnitus, or my radio and TV recorder, it wasn't getting through to me. I didn't wait about for the Beethoven.

    What was it like for you [to coin a phrase]?
  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12986

    #2
    Pretty muscular Brahms, but brisk and effective. Band in good nick, and Haefliger a persuasive champion of the work - well, IMO.
    B's 5th was ....er, well.......B's 5th.

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      #3
      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
      Pretty muscular Brahms, but brisk and effective. Band in good nick, and Haefliger a persuasive champion of the work - well, IMO.
      B's 5th was ....er, well.......B's 5th.
      Draco M I started to listen and record the Brahms. There was silence for some seconds although the volume was set quite high, then an almighty crash when that big chord near the beginning nearly burst the recording box. In other words balance - the middle sound seemed to be missing.Ill listen to the recording again later.

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      • rauschwerk
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1482

        #4
        Heard only the first movement in the car and was not encouraged to hear the rest when I got indoors. The main tempo marking is Maestoso and the second subject is marked poco piu moderato. In this performance the main tempo was very fast indeed, and the second subject tempo almost twice as slow. I considered this to verge on the ridiculous.

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        • DracoM
          Host
          • Mar 2007
          • 12986

          #5
          Agree about tempi, but it made me think about the contrasts of material rather more. But I take your point.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26572

            #6
            Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
            Heard only the first movement in the car and was not encouraged to hear the rest when I got indoors. The main tempo marking is Maestoso and the second subject is marked poco piu moderato. In this performance the main tempo was very fast indeed, and the second subject tempo almost twice as slow. I considered this to verge on the ridiculous.
            Likewise, I caught the first movement and agree - the Maestoso aspect was lost. It was trim, precise, well-played, but the emphatic sounded merely clipped, too often.
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • rauschwerk
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1482

              #7
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
              Likewise, I caught the first movement and agree - the Maestoso aspect was lost. It was trim, precise, well-played, but the emphatic sounded merely clipped, too often.
              I did wonder about the sound quality, but am always reluctant to make judgments based on listening in the car. At first I thought it must be a chamber orchestra, since the piano seemed so loud in relation to it.

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              • Sir Monty Golfear

                #8
                The sound was very bass heavy with a somewhat recessed midrange .....slightly muddy, and certainly dynamically challenged. Perhaps that is why I could not really get into the Brahms. ..the sound seemed to rob the performance of life .

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                • 3rd Viennese School

                  #9
                  I joined in the fun half way through Beethoven 5. Got a bit thrown when they missed out the repeat in the finale and went straight into the Development section.

                  Heard the Dvorak windy piece and was suprised that it wasnt from the Channel 4 testcard.

                  3VS

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                  • Sir Monty Golfear

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 3rd Viennese School View Post
                    I joined in the fun half way through Beethoven 5. Got a bit thrown when they missed out the repeat in the finale and went straight into the Development section.

                    Heard the Dvorak windy piece and was suprised that it wasnt from the Channel 4 testcard.

                    3VS
                    I think they missed the repeat out because there was a football match on the tv at 11, and they didn't want to miss the game.

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                    • bluestateprommer
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3019

                      #11
                      Thread hijack, as usual by bsp, but again for a hopefully good reason, namely that the RLPO has just named its next chief conductor, Domingo Hindoyan:



                      My only experience of his music-making was the quarantine stream of his Met Opera HD-cast of L'elisir d'amore; fine job there.

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