Live 24th April The Philharmonia at the RFH

[aeolium]

Well the concert I heard with the Philharmonia under Salonen last year at Birmingham, the Janacek Sinfonietta and Duke Bluebeard's Castle, was one of the best orchestral concerts I have heard live in the last decade or so. And I have been far from impressed with the LSO under Gergiev, particularly in non-Russian repertoire.

[Sir Monty Golfear]

I've heard it described as the most "conductor-dependent" of the London bands, and from what I've heard of it recently (some of it at very close quarters) I'd have to agree. In good hands, an inspired band, but less capable of disguising a lack of inspiration.

In any case, this particular programme wouldn't have had me rushing for a ticket whoever was at the helm; apart from the Sibelius, a Classic FM hall of fame programme, putting Rach PC2 with Tchaik 6 to guarantee inter-movement applause in all the worst places (though they're all bad in my book). Of course, if Dutoit had been conducting they'd have kicked off with Finlandia.

I hate the Inter-movement applause too.......perhaps we should start an Anti Inter-movement movement ?

[EnemyoftheStoat]

I hate the Inter-movement applause too.......perhaps we should start an Anti Inter-movement movement ?

I'd applaud that. At the right time, anyway.

[Chris Newman]

It wasn't. The Philharmonia retains the name and nothing else from its great days of the past. It is unquestionably the weakest of the London Orchestras these days.

Such a shame. The "Pathetique" was the last work that Dennis Brain played with the Philharmonia at the Edinburgh Festival before he died on September 1st, 1957.

HS

Sorry, they let you down, HS. When they are firing on all cylinders the present Philharmonia is one of the best orchestras in Europe. In terms of playing standards they gave by far and away the best Prom last season. I have heard it said that they are unforgiving with uninspiring conductors and can let them know it by refusing to "rescue" them.

(2011) Prom 44: Shostakovich, Stravinsky & Tchaikovsky - Wednesday 17 August, 7.30pm
Stravinsky - Petrushka (1947 version)
Shostakovich - Violin Concerto No. 1 in A minor
Tchaikovsky - Francesca da Rimini
Shostakovich - The Age of Gold - suite
Shostakovich - Dolls' Dances - Lyric Waltz (orch. Tamas Batiashvili)
Conductor Esa-Pekka Salonen

[Hornspieler]

...I don't think I need you to show me how to suck any eggs yet thanks .

Or to display good manners? You might OF considered that, "Sir(?)" Monty.

HS

[Nick Armstrong]

Or to display good manners? You might OF considered that, "Sir(?)" Monty.
HS

Now now ladies, handbags down....

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Or to display good manners? You might OF considered that, "Sir(?)" Monty.

HS

Was said in jest.....I seem to have egg on my face !.

[salymap]

Right, well is someone going to start a new thread on tonight's concert with the Bournemouth SO/Karabits ??

[3rd Viennese School]

Hope that LS 253 symphonies are better than his idea of suddenly playing the finale of Tchaik 6 whilst the audience are still applauding mvt 3 which they arent supposed to etc etc.

Did any audience members walk out after mvt 3 of Tchaik 6 thinking it was over? Happened at the Proms in 2004!

To get that emotional effect at the start of the finale I had to wait until the opening tune came back round again! I almost had put my CD of the finale adagio on.

Thought this concert was a Proms repeat at first...

3VS

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Hope that LS 253 symphonies are better than his idea of suddenly playing the finale of Tchaik 6 whilst the audience are still applauding mvt 3 which they arent supposed to etc etc.

Did any audience members walk out after mvt 3 of Tchaik 6 thinking it was over? Happened at the Proms in 2004!

To get that emotional effect at the start of the finale I had to wait until the opening tune came back round again! I almost had put my CD of the finale adagio on.

Thought this concert was a Proms repeat at first...

3VS

Well said.....what is happening to the audiences these days?......perhaps the BBC should employ a person with a board which says " Applause " on it just like the sit-coms etc ......talk about dumbing down !!

[EnemyoftheStoat]

perhaps the BBC should employ a person with a board which says " Applause " on it just like the sit-coms etc ......

Careful with what you appear to suggest - you never know who's reading these boards!

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Careful with what you appear to suggest - you never know who's reading these boards!

I own the rights to that !

[Barbirollians]

It wasn't. The Philharmonia retains the name and nothing else from its great days of the past. It is unquestionably the weakest of the London Orchestras these days.

Such a shame. The "Pathetique" was the last work that Dennis Brain played with the Philharmonia at the Edinburgh Festival before he died on September 1st, 1957.

HS

The Mackerras was only recorded in 2010 HS !

I agree with whoever said they were the most conductor dependent orchestra of the London 4 .

I only know them from records but what a wonderful band the old Philharmonia were . The Borodin 2 with Kletzki is playing as I write .

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Hope that LS 253 symphonies are better than his idea of suddenly playing the finale of Tchaik 6 whilst the audience are still applauding mvt 3 which they arent supposed to etc etc.

Did any audience members walk out after mvt 3 of Tchaik 6 thinking it was over? Happened at the Proms in 2004!

To get that emotional effect at the start of the finale I had to wait until the opening tune came back round again! I almost had put my CD of the finale adagio on.

Thought this concert was a Proms repeat at first...

3VS

I've just had a listen to one of his 253 symphonies on you tube......I daren't express my opinion on here , I would get banned for life !

[3rd Viennese School]

"I've just had a listen to one of his 253 symphonies on you tube......I daren't express my opinion on here , I would get banned for life ! "




Pretend you have to write the CD inlay card as part of your job.

There are ways you can get round this. My Bruckner 9 says" the scherzo is harmonically daring"
i.e. out of tune!


P.S. Did I tell you guys that Tchaikovsky Symphony no.6 is my very first symphony?

3VS