Scottish Chamber Orchestra 13/4/12

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  • Flosshilde
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    • Nov 2010
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    Scottish Chamber Orchestra 13/4/12

    Super concert, with some out of the way music as well as Bach (can Telemann be called out of the way now?) A double horn concerto by Johann David Heinichen, beautifully played by the SCO's own horn players (on horns with valves), and a Vivaldi concerto that had a wonderful bassoon part, especially in the slow movement, again excellently played by the SCO's bassoonist. Richard Eggar mugging it a bit during the Bach harpsichord concerto, but not too much.
  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    Super concert, with some out of the way music as well as Bach[...]
    Heard a bit of this - it was broadcast on Wednesday 11th from St Andrews. (Perhaps you're referring to a repeat, Flossie? )

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    • Tony Halstead
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      What does 'mugging it a bit' mean, please?
      Also, why even mention that the horns have valves? The SCO haven't as far as I know 'converted' to period instruments.
      To play valveless horns in this repertoire with a modern-instrument orchestra would be courting disaster.
      OK, I know that they USED to do it, with the likes of Mackerras and others, but sadly it was to prove the ruination of their former - wonderful - 1st horn.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Complete;ly agre withy you there Waldhorn! Anything hybrid be awful!

        For example, in brass bands, people have toyed withy the idea of trumpet/cornets and that didn't work either. Sound didn't really come off, to say the least!
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • kernelbogey
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
          [...] Also, why even mention that the horns have valves? The SCO haven't as far as I know 'converted' to period instruments.
          There was an interview with the two soloists of the Heinichen in which they made some reference to their choice of instruments for the piece. It went in one ear and out the other at the time but I recall that the choice of intstrument for a period piece had exercised them.

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          • ardcarp
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            What does 'mugging it a bit' mean, please?
            I'm not familiar with the term either, but if it's what Richard Egarr normally does, it means putting unnecessary rubato into music that doesn't need it.

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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
              Heard a bit of this - it was broadcast on Wednesday 11th from St Andrews. (Perhaps you're referring to a repeat, Flossie? )
              No, I was at the Glasgow performance on Friday (which was, I suppose, a repeat); a note in the programme said it was being broadcast live, so I assumed it was that night's performance

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              • Flosshilde
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                What does 'mugging it a bit' mean, please?
                In his introduction to the Bach concerto he commented on the show-off nature of the harpsichord part, & also the repetition (I'm paraphrasing very broadly here), & during the performance he did seem to be putting on a slight show of boredom? - resting his head on his hand while he played the repeated notes. That obviously wouldn't have come across in the bvroadcast, & possibly he didn't introduced the concerto in the same way during the St Andrew's performance that was broadcast.

                Did you listen to the concert? have you got anything to say about it? As a horn-player(?) you might have some comments on the horn concerto?

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                • Tony Halstead
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Richard's playing didn't at all come across with any element of boredom, and that news about putting his head on his hand sounds like a typical example of RE histrionics.
                  I enjoyed the 2 horn concerto and I thought that their rejection of 'period' instruments ( although I believe the SCO owns natural horns that they lend out to their players) was absolutely appropriate for this piece.

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                  • Flosshilde
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                    Richard's playing didn't at all come across with any element of boredom, and that news about putting his head on his hand sounds like a typical example of RE histrionics.
                    I enjoyed the 2 horn concerto and I thought that their rejection of 'period' instruments ( although I believe the SCO owns natural horns that they lend out to their players) was absolutely appropriate for this piece.
                    No, his performance certainly didn't have any evidence of boredom - I meant that he put on a mild play of 'ho hum, here's those reepetitive bits' - playing it up to the audience, ie 'mugging'.

                    The horn concerto was very enjoyable - difficult enough, I should think, on valved horns, let alone valveless. I didn't say, originally, that the two soloists were the SCO's Principal Horn (Alec Frank-Gemmill), & Second Horn (Harry Johnstone).

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                    • Flosshilde
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      oops - I've been referring to the horn concerto - having just looked at the programme again I see that it was a sonata

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