Bournemouth SO/Karabits/Hough from the Colston Hall, Bristol

[Hornspieler]

Hang on there !....didn't you mention Playing with Peter Katin ( !!) , I was referring to that , just as a bit of extra interest .
If we are going to get on one, I may as well get really ballooned up, and mention the Malcolm Binns recording of the said concerto !.........or just as a contrast perhaps you can recall a live performance of Rachmaninov's 1st piano concerto that truly sticks in your mind.

Yes, I can indeed

The performance that I played in with Peter Katin, many years ago - and that still truly sticks in my mind to this day; which is why I suggested that he might be willing to comment on Mr Hough's performance "Live on 3"

Here is a reminder of what I wrote, following that performance.

Stephen Hough's Rachmaninov was a disappointment to me. By all means well enough played (a couple of minor slips) but something was missing - some extravagence of interpretation which I feel is needed and that this, (my favourite of the Rachmaninov concertos), was not there.
I can remember playing this work with Peter Katin. I wonder what he thought of last night's performance?

We are still on track and it is very pleasing that this thread is really taking off at a gallop. Hopefully, it will keep us all going, with lively comment and discussion until the Proms start in the Summer.

HS

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Yes, I can indeed

The performance that I played in with Peter Katin, many years ago - and that still truly sticks in my mind to this day; which is why I suggested that he might be willing to comment on Mr Hough's performance "Live on 3"

Here is a reminder of what I wrote, following that performance.


We are still on track and it is very pleasing that this thread is really taking off at a gallop. Hopefully, it will keep us all going, with lively comment and discussion until the Proms start in the Summer.

HS

It would be really interesting to hear what Peter Katin's Comments on Stephen Hough's performance. For what it is worth ( as a mere mortal who can only manage to sight read the said concerto) Stephen Hough sounded curiously detached from the orchestra right from the first piano entry, which sounded very slightly before the beat. I just wonder if the piano was causing some problems, ( besides being out of tune ) , sample 15mins 14 secs to 15min 21 secs into the broadcast .

Thanks for the reply .

SMG

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Re Hough & Rach PC 1 again! I copied the broadcast Jan12 performance with CBSO/Nelsons to CD & playing it was quite illuminating. Of course Symphony Hall is acoustically near perfect & of course Hough was given a fabulous piano. It's so evident that all sections of the CBSO were participating, feeding Hough & he giving something back. By comparison, the BSO at Bristol gave me the impression of accompanying in a jobsworth way.

I was amazed that both performances were almost exactly of the same duration. The Birmingham performance feels much, much faste & fiery. The lyrical passages are shared with the orchestra with great tenderness & refinement. Nelsons & Hough were clearly on the same wavelength.

Spot on !

[Sir Monty Golfear]

I also agree and regret, which is why I immediately offered my deepest apologies, both to our newest member and to the message boarders in general.

HS

Apology completely accepted .

SMG

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Joseph-Michel and Jacques-Etienne would be proud of you. Welcome to the Forum!

Thank you. Lady Golfear is very proud of me too !

SMG

[Panjandrum]

I also have zimmermans recording, I will revisit it ..talking of out of tune pianos, why not try Ashkenazy and Previn in the Rachmaninov concerto. I think they must of borrowed thr local pub upright to record that on .

Which concerto are you thinking of Sir Mont? Can't say I have ever noticed any problems with an out of tune joanna on this recording before!

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Which concerto are you thinking of Sir Mont? Can't say I have ever noticed any problems with an out of tune joanna on this recording before!

The piano at Colton hall was out of tune in places, I referred to to that previously. Sorry for confusion. If you listen Ashkenazy and Previn in their Deccan set, the piano was very out of tune , I think Winifred Attwell would of been proud of it !
SMG

[Panjandrum]

The piano at Colton hall was out of tune in places, I referred to to that previously. Sorry for confusion. If you listen Ashkenazy and Previn in their Deccan set, the piano was very out of tune , I think Winifred Attwell would of been proud of it !
SMG

I was referring to the Ashkenazy/Previn and, although I havent listened to it lately, the impression of it being out of tune was not one that had previously occurred to me. Are there any particular passages which you feel illustrate the point particularly?

[Sir Monty Golfear]

I was referring to the Ashkenazy/Previn and, although I havent listened to it lately, the impression of it being out of tune was not one that had previously occurred to me. Are there any particular passages which you feel illustrate the point particularly?

Re Colston hall.....I will note down some examples and get back to you.

Cheers

SMG

[Pianorak]

. . . Rachmaninov Piano Concerto no 1, soloist Stephen Hough

Have just found my VHS tape of Hough and Osmo Vänskä with BBCSO playing the work at the 2005 Proms. Seems to have much more attack and decisiveness about it. Glad I kept the tape. However, Krystian Zimerman's performance is still favourite.

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Have just found my VHS tape of Hough and Osmo Vänskä with BBCSO playing the work at the 2005 Proms. Seems to have much more attack and decisiveness about it. Glad I kept the tape. However, Krystian Zimerman's performance is still favourite.

Have got hold of the Zimerman cd. It is certainly up there!. Ozawa and the BSO are also on top form. What a shame that Stephen Hough and Litton is let down by average sound quality.

SMG

[Hornspieler]

Have got hold of the Zimerman cd. It is certainly up there!. Ozawa and the BSO are also on top form. What a shame that Stephen Hough and Litton is let down by average sound quality.

SMG

Relevent? Well, perhaps

Difficult to understand what this has to do with a concert by the other (British) BSO in the Colston Hall, Bristol.

HS

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Relevent? Well, perhaps

Difficult to understand what this has to do with a concert by the other (British) BSO in the Colston Hall, Bristol.

HS

I waS just replying to a poster regarding his favourite recorded performance of the Rachmaninov Piano Concerto. Thatbis his benchmark, he was comparing it against Mr Houghs perceived live performance. I think the relevance is that when you referred to Peter Katin , although live against recorded , you may have inadvertently started the comparison. Although live versus recorded in studio is totally different, it surely has some relevance in the context of healthy and interesting conversation about the music.

Cheers,

SMG

[Hornspieler]

I waS just replying to a poster regarding his favourite recorded performance of the Rachmaninov Piano Concerto. Thatbis his benchmark, he was comparing it against Mr Houghs perceived live performance. I think the relevance is that when you referred to Peter Katin , although live against recorded , you may have inadvertently started the comparison. Although live versus recorded in studio is totally different, it surely has some relevance in the context of healthy and interesting conversation about the music.

Cheers,

SMG

Thanks for the clarification, Monty.

You have not yet posted on any other threads. I was looking forward to something from you on the Platform3 "Photography" thread as you are an enthusiastic member of the Lumix Camera Forum.

Best wishes

HS

[Sir Monty Golfear]

Thanks for the clarification, Monty.

You have not yet posted on any other threads. I was looking forward to something from you on the Platform3 "Photography" thread as you are an enthusiastic member of the Lumix Camera Forum.

Best wishes

HS

Yes indeed I am on the Lumix forum! And also take part on the amateur photography forum too ! , photography is also one of my passions. I will have a look at the photography thread.

I have been away with work so have missed a few concerts on radio 3 so need to catch up .

Cheers,

SMG