Originally posted by kernelbogey
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... the French, of course, make no attempt at all to replicate the original pronunciation of foreign proper names - everything is pronounced as if it were French. And, o the joy of hearing French announcers Frenchify Ralph Vaughan Williams! -
Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
too true!
One broadcast involving a performance by Eugen Jochum was imprenetrable without considerable online detective work... "Ernyom" was how it came out...
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Their pronunciation (is it that, what it is????Originally posted by vinteuil View Post ) of German names and words is even more hilarious than the British one 
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Just got one word for you: Ernyom!Originally posted by Roehre View PostTheir pronunciation (is it that, what it is???? ) of German names and words is even more hilarious than the British one
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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So why are we being so [….] to our presenters? If someone on R3 came up with Takemitsu in perfect Japanese pronunciation (and in the correct order), it would sound most peculiar. And where do you draw the line between basic and not so basic knowledge or major and non-major language?
But it really annoys me to hear German ch pronounced as k…Comment
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Quote. Shakespeare's "Hark! Hark! the Lark".
Surely it's "Hark hark the dogs do bark"
Thought everyone knew that.
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...as in 'Chaos' (which, regardless of its etymology, is a German word used by Germans, who clearly chose at some point not to change it to 'Kaos')?Originally posted by doversoul View Post
Generally speaking, however, I've long abandoned hope of hearing German being spoken properly on Radio 3 (Martin Handley being an honourable exception). Liebeslied, Liebesleid - hey, there're virtually the same thing!
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Sorry I didn't explain enough. I meant -ch.Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post...as in 'Chaos' (which, regardless of its etymology, is a German word used by Germans, who clearly chose at some point not to change it to 'Kaos')?
Generally speaking, however, I've long abandoned hope of hearing German being spoken properly on Radio 3 (Martin Handley being an honourable exception). Liebeslied, Liebesleid - hey, there're virtually the same thing!Comment
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John Shea's German pronunciation was excellent - at least last night!Originally posted by Norfolk Born View Post
My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)Comment
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Not to mention Liebe-schtodd and Liebe-schtraum ...Originally posted by Norfolk Born View PostLiebeslied, Liebesleid - hey, there're virtually the same thing!
Have they played Feuer-schnott recently?Comment
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I rarely am [....] on this subject - as you say, it would be absurd to have authentic accents for each language, as well as impossible - save perhaps if they give this amazing young man Alex Rawlings a job, or the remarkable Ray Gillon also featured in the article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17101370Originally posted by doversoul View Post
There's a line between getting the sounds right, and delivering a full blown local accent though. You can say 'Claude Debussy' appropriately by getting the vowel sounds right, but without doing a ridiculous cod-French inflection. A number of the R3 announcers (Shea and Handley have rightly been mentioned) are exemplary.
I love hearing Rob Cowan tackle foreign names and titles... He has a sort of 'all-purpose foreign' staccato accent, much in evidence with "Okko Kamu" this morning
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Cod-French
One Radio 3 announcer does a ridiculous cod-French inflection when she says Chopin - and still gets the vowel sounds wrong!Originally posted by Caliban View PostComment
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