Ken Russell Delius Film - 24 Jan

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  • Boilk
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 976

    Ken Russell Delius Film - 24 Jan

    A welcome repeat for Ken Russell's 1968 Omnibus film:
    Song of Summer: Frederick Delius
    BBC Four, 24th Jan.

  • Richard Tarleton

    #2
    Originally posted by Boilk View Post
    A welcome repeat for Ken Russell's 1968 Omnibus film:
    Song of Summer: Frederick Delius
    BBC Four, 24th Jan.

    One of KR's better efforts.

    I later heard Eric Fenby give his Delius talk a couple of times (it didn't vary much ) - once with a long-suffering Ralph Holmes doing illustrations - and had difficulty reconciling the frankly pompous and boring old gent in front of us with the young Christopher Gable in the film......

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    • salymap
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5969

      #3
      Richard, do you know if Fenby published another book on Delius, apart from'Delius as I knew him'? Until recently I owned a proof copy of another un-named book and wonder if it ever saw the light of day.

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #4
        I don't, saly - that sounds like a precious item! did it go to a good home, or like so many things disappear in a move?!

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        • salymap
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5969

          #5
          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          I don't, saly - that sounds like a precious item! did it go to a good home, or like so many things disappear in a move?!
          I'm sure it was a good home, a musician who was very interested in it

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          • verismissimo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2957

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            One of KR's better efforts.
            As always with Ken, plenty of overacting!

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            • Norfolk Born

              #7
              Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
              As always with Ken, plenty of overacting!
              Even in the Elgar?

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              • Panjandrum

                #8
                Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                As always with Ken, plenty of overacting!
                Yes, although Fenby himself coached both actors in their roles and regarded their portrayals as "absolutely true to character" and the film as "disturbingly lifelike". The scene showing Fenby attending a church and discovering the parish priest (played by Ken Russell himself) making love to a girl in a pew did occur, but it was not mentioned in Delius As I Knew Him. Fenby told it to Russell for his ears alone and was shocked when he saw it in the film. Other inconsistencies included Fenby talking with a broad Yorkshire accent which, as anyone who knew him will testify, could not have been further from the truth, and "Appalachia" being played on the gramophone four years before the first recording was made!

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  These weaknesses in the film make it a little less galling that it is not available on the iPlayer, I suppose.

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                  • JFLL
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 780

                    #10
                    I was amused by the billing in Radio Times: 'A Song of Summer: Frederick Delius. Fact-based drama chronicling the last six years in the life of renowned British composer Frederick Delius'. No mention of Ken Russell whatsoever, despite the fact that there's been a mini-season of KR's films (very few, alas, or perhaps providentially?) since his death! As for 'British composer', technically true, but remember the splendid scene where Fenby says something to the effect that things are looking up in Yorkshire, and that they even perform English music now, at which a look of horror passes over Jelka's face and Delius icily replies 'English music? What is that?'

                    I had the devil of a job getting hold of a copy of the Delius DVD a few years back. I just hope they haven't let it go out of circulation again, as to my mind it's as good as, if not better, than 'Elgar', thanks particularly to the superb Max Adrian. I'd love to see Russell's 'Debussy' again, one he made before he went totally OTT and which I haven't seen since it was first shown in the 60s. Never did see his Bartok -- must have been doing my homework.

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                    • Russ

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JFLL View Post
                      I'd love to see Russell's 'Debussy' again, one he made before he went totally OTT and which I haven't seen since it was first shown in the 60s.
                      Ken Russell's Debussy:

                      Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzFR84cEYsI
                      Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhaIwKbI16g
                      Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUylr8uXc1Y
                      Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Nlosjwrg8
                      Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZVUxDOkipk
                      Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDuUC1-QZn4

                      The sound quality is a bit rough. Script by Melvyn Bragg.

                      Enjoy.

                      Russ

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 38102

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Russ View Post
                        Thanks Russ - really good of you to take the trouble

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                        • JFLL
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 780

                          #13
                          Oh, marvellous, Russ, thanks very much indeed. The one thing I do remeber about this film, I'm ashamed to say, is of a party at whch Debussy is next to a gramophone listening to a piece of music and a pair of knickers suddenly lands on the turntable. (I was seventeen at the time, in the by then only partly liberated 60s, so that sort of thing sticks in the mind.)

                          Can that be right, though? I shall soon find out.

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                          • Norfolk Born

                            #14
                            Indeed ... a young lady in (if memory serves) polka-dot bra and panties does a striptease to the 'Danse Sacrée' and 'Danse Profane'. (It sounds as if we're about the same age!)

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                            • Russ

                              #15
                              Strange what we remember from the Debussy film after all this time isn't it? Must admit there were whole segments that I couldn't remember at all. The opening sequence (girl on beach being shot with arrows) still packs a punch, and I suppose is Ken Russell announcing "This is not going to be your usual music documentary"! The sequence I remember firing my imagination the most at the time of original transmission (I was very young - too young even to be interested in scantily clad ladies) is the last section, with Debussy spending years working on the Fall of the House of Usher - very gothic and very spooky!

                              The aspect I'd completely forgotten about is the 'film within a film' format, but did Russell pinch it from Truffaut, Godard etc (French new wave) or did they pinch it from him?

                              Russ
                              Last edited by Guest; 28-01-12, 14:27.

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