The Lark Ascends with Piano.

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  • doversoul1
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    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
    Also lost is the phrasing of the most recent thread which made me smile - 'The lark ascends with piano' - thinking it must have been a tiny piano, and then that if it's playing with its toes does that become 'pieds en l'air'.
    Sorry, little things etc...
    #107

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
      • 22181

      Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
      Also lost is the phrasing of the most recent thread which made me smile - 'The lark ascends with piano' - thinking it must have been a tiny piano, and then that if it's playing with its toes does that become 'pieds en l'air'.
      Sorry, little things etc...
      I guess rarer than the traditional flying pig! Maybe a Swienway!

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      • vinteuil
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        • Nov 2010
        • 12933

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        I guess rarer than the traditional flying pig! Maybe a Sweinway!
        ... much prefer a Boarsendorfer myself.

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        • cloughie
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          • Dec 2011
          • 22181

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... much prefer a Boarsendorfer myself.

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          How about a Hamawa?

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          • Pabmusic
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            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
            There might be some confusion here, CS (some of which might be mine).
            The asterisked arranger is David Matthews, but I can find no trace of a chamber arrangement by him.
            (This is not to question ahinton's assertion, btw!).:.
            There may be some confusion about a chamber version. The full score makes it clear that it can be performed with very much reduced forces. I don't have it in front of me, but I think it's strings plus flute, oboe and clarinet (maybe bassoon). That's clearly a 'chamber orchestra' version, presumably by RVW, who did a lot of this sort of thing. Any other arrangement (recorders and bass heckelphone) is seemingly not by the composer. :)

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            • ahinton
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              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              There might be some confusion here, CS (some of which might be mine).
              The asterisked arranger is David Matthews, but I can find no trace of a chamber arrangement by him.
              (This is not to question ahinton's assertion, btw!)
              He was, however, part of the team in a Beyond the stave programme on The lark ascending:

              and features as an arranger (but of Britten) in this future concert, which does mention another arrangement of The lark:
              https://www.aco.com.au/whats_on/even...ascending-2018
              I can't find it either (and the composer's website lists many other arrangments by him, how he's found time to write all of which I have no idea), but I do recall listening to it at a Presteigne Festival concert some years ago!

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              • ahinton
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                • Nov 2010
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                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                How about a Hamawa?
                ...especially if played by Hamelin, perhaps...

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 11062

                  Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                  There may be some confusion about a chamber version. The full score makes it clear that it can be performed with very much reduced forces. I don't have it in front of me, but I think it's strings plus flute, oboe and clarinet (maybe bassoon). That's clearly a 'chamber orchestra' version, presumably by RVW, who did a lot of this sort of thing. Any other arrangement (recorders and bass heckelphone) is seemingly not by the composer. :)
                  Yes! I could/should (and now indeed) have checked.
                  Full version: 2 flutes, oboe, 2 clarinets, 2 bassoons, 2 horns, triangle, violin solo, strings (number not specified).
                  Chamber version: flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon, horn, triangle, 3 (or 4) first violins, 3 (or 4) second violins, 2 violas, 2 cellos, double bass, and solo violin, with the following additional comment:
                  When performed in this way, the players should be directed to "play in" all cues in small notes, and those enclosed in brackets (marked Ch. o.) which are in their parts.

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                  • cloughie
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                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22181

                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    ...especially if played by Hamelin, perhaps...
                    The Hama klavier perhaps?

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                    • oddoneout
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                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9271

                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      The Hama klavier perhaps?
                      Is that the wurst of the lot?

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37812

                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        Is that the wurst of the lot?
                        Brock? or Brat?

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22181

                          Spurred on by this thread I have just purchased a CD of Vaughan Williams which has Ian Burnside on Piano, Matthew Trusler on Violin and Ronald Wood, baritone. The music includes the Lark, Concerto Accademico and folks songs arranged for Violin and Piano and the Songs of Travel and Three Songs fro Pilgrim's Progress. Very enjoyable!

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