Vienna Phil 2012 New Year's concert

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  • Mr Pee
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3285

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    A lady?

    How can you tell?

    Have you riffled through her handbag (a haaandbaaag?) looking for her pastry fork?

    When she breaks wind, is the world filled with the scent of Parma violets?

    I could tell there was a lady cellist because the sound of the VPO Cello section was just not up to par this year. Closer inspection on my HD television soon revealed the reason why. They tried to hide her away on the back desk, but to no avail.
    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

    Mark Twain.

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    • Alison
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 6493

      Once again the sound quality even on HD was a shade disappointing,
      poor definition in unter Donner und Blitz. The applause lacked presence
      and the frisson of a live concert while Petroc's voice had a disembodied feel.

      I don't hear the Danse Diabolique as an ideal opening item and this was just the beginning of
      an unusually 'bitty' feel to the second half. In the end I was won over from the Tchaikovsky items
      (superbly conducted and played) onwards, without quite assuaging doubts that Jansons conducting is
      a little too macho, just missing that indefinable exquisitiness in the viennese items.

      I have kept to my tradition of leaving the first half till later on.

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      • John Skelton

        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        A woman leader of a VPO section by 2025 perhaps?
        There already is (since 2008). Albena Danailova. http://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrich...es-Faktum.html

        Here she is playing Schumann's concerto with Die Orchesterakademie Ossiach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pV31fSGaw

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by Prommer View Post
          What was the Tommy Beecham utterance about lady cellists? If it is repeatable on a family R3 group?

          aaah yes the "famous wit" .................. my arse

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          • John Skelton

            Originally posted by Prommer View Post
            What was the Tommy Beecham utterance about lady cellists? If it is repeatable on a family R3 group?
            'Tommy' was asked if he had ever heard any Stockhausen played on a harpsichord. To which, quick as a flash, he replied: "No, but I've stepped on a 'cello while copulating with a skeleton on a tin roof and scratched my thighs in the process."

            How all the chaps guffawed.

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            • Mr Pee
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3285

              Originally posted by John Skelton View Post
              'Tommy' was asked if he had ever heard any Stockhausen played on a harpsichord. To which, quick as a flash, he replied: "No, but I've stepped on a 'cello while copulating with a skeleton on a tin roof and scratched my thighs in the process."


              No he didn't.
              Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

              Mark Twain.

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12391

                The waltz, Wiener Burger by Carl Ziehrer, in the first half is an absolute cracker and a favourite of Hans Knappertsbusch. I'd like to see more Ziehrer on the programme in future years.

                Against all expectations, the Tchaikovsky items didn't feel at all out of place and were wonderfully played. And what a masterpiece is Josef Strauss's Delirien, one for which Karajan had special affection.

                All in all, this was a great programme played con amore by this superb orchestra.

                Incidentally, it is 40 years ago today since I heard my first NYD concert. How time flies!
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • DracoM
                  Host
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 13009

                  And that stupid dance programme during the Blue Danube!! Actually, that stupid dancing period.
                  Blue Danube is a real test piece and to WATCH the VPO playing it is education in itself. I do wish ORF stopped dressing up the music with all that kitsch and camp. It's actually not a very good global advert for the State Opera Ballet either - they're not all that good.

                  Liked Maris Jansons engaged presence. They seemed to play very well for him.

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                  • Mary Chambers
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1963

                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    It's actually not a very good global advert for the State Opera Ballet either - they're not all that good.
                    They aren't, I agree. I charitably blame it on the strange floors they're dancing on.

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                    • kernelbogey
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5845

                      Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                      [...] Liked Maris Jansons engaged presence. They seemed to play very well for him.
                      In the ORF broadcast, the presenter quoted Jansons from an interview which they had broadcast in the interval.

                      'Musik war mein erstes Spielzeug' - 'Music was my first toy'.

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                      • hmvman
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1155

                        I enjoyed the concert very much and I thought it was excellent musically this year but I agree the dancing wasn't that good. The Vienna Boys Choir was a nice addition, though. The TV production was somehow less good too; a bit too much use of the 'flying' cameras for me.

                        All in all, though an excellent start to my musical year.

                        Happy New Year to you all and good listening in 2012.

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12391

                          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                          In the ORF broadcast, the presenter quoted Jansons from an interview which they had broadcast in the interval.

                          'Musik war mein erstes Spielzeug' - 'Music was my first toy'.
                          I tried to log on to ORF2 live stream but wouldn't let me do it. Is it out of bounds to foreigners?

                          Agree with DracoM about the dancing but at least we can edit it out of the DVD release. Mind, I was glad to see the Belvedere again three years after I went round. Gustav Klimt's The Kiss is a knockout 'in the flesh' - all that gold - and the whole programme, dance and all, must be a huge boost for the Vienna tourist industry. The concert was broadcast in 73 countries (is anyone interested in classical music in Nigeria?) and the publicity for the charms of this great city is massive.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • bluestateprommer
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3031

                            The US delayed radiocast is going on now (just heard the Sperl-Galopp), and the Lumbye is starting. Was a bit surprised at some section repeats in Freut euch des Lebens that I hadn't heard done before, as well as the one repeat that was taken out as a result. The NPR commentary tends to translate the ORF commentary directly (no idea what Petroc does with the BBC transmission, but I may find out later). For Petrushka, if memory serves, I thought that they archived the VPO New Year's concert for a week, like the BBC, but I may be mistaken, which is a long prelude of saying that I haven't yet tried to log on to ORF's site. Will have to give that a shot later.

                            Happy 2012 to all.
                            Last edited by bluestateprommer; 01-01-12, 17:48.

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                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6493

                              I'm sure Brian Kay - god bless him - used to announce next year's conductor. All a bit rushed at the end as it turned out.
                              Maybe it's not yet decided. Still nothing on the VPO website.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20582

                                The waltz accompaniment in the Sleeping Beauty Waltz was interesting. It sounded as though Jansons had told the VPO to behave themselves and not play it with a Viennese lilt (unlike Karajan who who let them or encouraged them to follow their instincts. They appeared to overcompensat a little in order to avoid playing the 2nd beat early... by playing it late. No harm done though and I enjoyed the whole concert.

                                I listened to it on Radio 3, so I didn't get sidetracked by looking out for women in the orchestra.

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