Das Lied von der Erde Centenary Nov 20 1911

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  • Chris Newman
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2100

    #31
    I heard a fine BBCSO performance at the BBC Maida Vale Studio in the late sixties conducted by Rudolf Schwartz with Edgar Evans (tenor) who wasn't bad (a bit past his best like Patzak) but was standing in for an indisposed Ronald Dowd (who I imagine would have been terrific). The mezzo was Pamela Bowden who was superb as anyone who heard her Gerontius Angel, Child of our Time, Madame Larina (with Solti at the ROH) and so on will know how good she was. Overall I would say she was like Alfreda Hodgson on Horenstein's version. She was sadly very under-recorded. It would be a miracle if the Beeb still had the tape.
    Last edited by Chris Newman; 18-11-11, 22:58.

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    • Petrushka
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12388

      #32
      Decided in the end it just had to be Bruno Walter and the VPO with Ferrier and Patzak. Preceded it with Haydn 96 also VPO/Walter.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Alison
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6488

        #33
        Sorry to be predictable but the performance most immediately at hand was

        Christianne Stotijn (mezzo-soprano)
        Anthony Dean Griffey (tenor)
        London Symphony Orchestra
        Bernard Haitink (conductor)

        Schubert: Symphony No 8 (Unfinished)
        Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde


        Originally I was up for following it with the Resurrection Symphony but even before listening to tons of Beethoven
        and Walton earlier today I thought this was a crazy idea too far.

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        • Alison
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 6488

          #34
          Nothing morbid about it ... a serenity literally supernatural ..Well said, Benjamin Britten

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          • Flosshilde
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            #35
            I thought that if I did listen to it I'd have the Baker/King/Haitinck, but as it happens I have a cold which has blocked my ears, so I wouldn't have been able to hear much. It will have to be a pleasure postponed.

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            • Alison
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6488

              #36
              Get better soon Floss x

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12388

                #37
                Get well soon from me too. I've had this problem for some time now and it isn't going away.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #38
                  Tghanks for your good wishes, Alison & Petrushka. It's so annoying getting a cold now - I've just come back from visiting my mother & have lots to do to get ready for a couple of Christmas shows, & I didn't feel up to going to the BBCSSO doing excerpts from Rosenkavalier under Runnicles last Thursday - did listen to it on the radio though - my ears weren't so bad then. Trouble is once it gets to my ears they take ages to clear & act as 'reservoirs' for the cold, so it just comes back again ... and again

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11875

                    #39
                    Sounds very unpleasant do get well soon.

                    I went for Ferrier/Patzak/Walter too . Though I have been getting to know the live Fassbaender/Araiza /Giulini on Orfeo recently and there is a lot to be said for having a native German speaker singing these songs . Then again Ferrier sings so movingly she transcends everything for me .

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                    • Sparafucile

                      #40
                      Hi,
                      I note that Chailly's complete set is available at a very reasonable price, so are you listening Santa?
                      Not sure whether it includes Das Lied.. though. Hope so.

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12388

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Sparafucile View Post
                        Hi,
                        I note that Chailly's complete set is available at a very reasonable price, so are you listening Santa?
                        Not sure whether it includes Das Lied.. though. Hope so.
                        Sorry, Sparafucile, the Chailly set doesn't include DLvdE as he has never recorded it. He certainly performed it as I recall a 1990 Prom I attended with the Concertgebouw.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Roehre

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          Sorry, Sparafucile, the Chailly set doesn't include DLvdE as he has never recorded it. He certainly performed it as I recall a 1990 Prom I attended with the Concertgebouw.
                          He did record LvdE. But for contractual reasons that recording hasn't been issued. His leaving the Concertgebouworchestra for Leipzig Gewandhaus + opera and consequently leaving the RCO without a record company (was Decca/Philips) doesn't help to resolve the dispute re this recording.
                          Btw, reasons are similar to the Haitink recordings of Berg's 3 pieces opus 6 and Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges which have been recorded but are still gathering dust somewhere.

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                          • Sparafucile

                            #43
                            Hi,
                            Useful to know that, thanks.
                            I'll be treating myself to the Chailly set for the hols.

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                            • Petrushka
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12388

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Roehre View Post
                              He did record LvdE. But for contractual reasons that recording hasn't been issued. His leaving the Concertgebouworchestra for Leipzig Gewandhaus + opera and consequently leaving the RCO without a record company (was Decca/Philips) doesn't help to resolve the dispute re this recording.
                              Btw, reasons are similar to the Haitink recordings of Berg's 3 pieces opus 6 and Ravel's L'Enfant et les sortilèges which have been recorded but are still gathering dust somewhere.
                              Thanks for the additional info of which I was unaware. What a disgraceful state of affairs!
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • Barbirollians
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11875

                                #45
                                Have finally got round to listening to the Baker/Kmentt/Kubelik recording on Audite - very fine indeed and Baker in particular is in glorious voice .

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