Sir Simon Rattle directing Lotti’s Crucifixus and Tallis’s Spem in alium at Berlin

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  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
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    Sir Simon Rattle directing Lotti’s Crucifixus and Tallis’s Spem in alium at Berlin

    Did anyone see Sir Simon Rattle’s performance of the Mahler Symphony No.8 from the Berlin Philharmonie. The two works that preceded the Mahler were the unaccompanied scores: Lotti’s Crucifixus and Tallis’s Spem in alium. I'm getting the score confused. Can anyone tell me which of the two came first to open the concert and which of the two had the smaller choir?
  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by Stanford's Legacy View Post
    Did anyone see Sir Simon Rattle’s performance of the Mahler Symphony No.8 from the Berlin Philharmonie. The two works that preceded the Mahler were the unaccompanied scores: Lotti’s Crucifixus and Tallis’s Spem in alium. I'm getting the score confused. Can anyone tell me which of the two came first to open the concert and which of the two had the smaller choir?
    Lotti's Crucifixus would have had the smaller choir (he wrote versions for 6, 8 and 10 voices I think) whereas the Tallis is of course famously a 40-part motet ....
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Stanfordian
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      • Dec 2010
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      #3
      I have a feeling that the first actually had more singers. Can we assume that the Tallis had 40 singers; probably? It is not possible that Rattle added more singers to the part. The reason I ask was that I was at the concert in Berlin but I have forgotten the order they were sung in. I have two programmes and the order are switched. I have made some notes that said the second score had a smaller choir. Sadly they are not works I know well.

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      • Rolmill
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Well, this afternoon's radio broadcast started with the Lotti. The Tallis didn't sound like one per part, so I suspect the same choral forces were used for both pieces. Imaginative programming, I thought.

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        • Stanfordian
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Does anyone know which choir was singing the Lotti and the Tallis that Sir Simon Rattle conducted? I'm pretty sure it was the Rundfunkchor Berlin coached by Simon Halsey but I'm not certain.

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            the Rundfunkchor Berlin
            yes
            Last edited by mercia; 24-09-11, 11:57.

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            • Stanfordian
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              • Dec 2010
              • 9322

              #7
              Yes, it was the Rundfunkchor Berlin coached by Simon Halsey singing Lotti’s Crucifixus and Tallis’s Spem in alium. Simon Halsey's office has confirmed this for me. I was actually at the concert in Berlin but we weren't told in the programme, poster, notes etc. Sir Simon conducted and guess many Berliners would have recognised the choir.

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              • BBMmk2
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                I listened to the radio broadcast on iplayer. Would have loved to have gone to the cinema but the nearest one is Guildford, which fromus, is over an hours drive away!!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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