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  • Vile Consort
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 696

    Alternatives to Mozart

    So what do you recommend listening to for the twelve days of wall-to-wall Mozart? Assuming that your answer isn't "Mozart, of course!" of course!

    I rather fancy listening to the rest of Robert Simpson's symphonies and perhaps getting to know some of Alan Hovanhess's music.

    Any other suggestions?
  • JoeG

    #2
    That sounds like an excellent idea - my plan is to catch up with the Proms I have recorded on DVD, listen to Jordi Savall's work on Spotify and recordings of World Routes & World on 3. No need to listen to Mozart - know how each piece is going to go after the first few bars - so predictable!

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    • Chris Newman
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2100

      #3
      Yes, it is bally lazy broadcasting and probably saves the BBC millions of pounds: a lot of money. I adore Mozart and will dip in. I can understand a day or two but....... licence fee! I am beginning to think some other channels abroad with pictures are more tempting.....

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Tina!

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          As it's after Chrismas, I hope I be getting cds etc, so be able to catch up wih those but yes, it woiuld be a good time also, to play recordings that you havn't heard for sometime to!!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • maestro267
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            • Nov 2010
            • 355

            #6
            Originally posted by JoeG View Post
            No need to listen to Mozart - know how each piece is going to go after the first few bars - so predictable!
            I am SO glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way. It's the same with most, if not all, Classical-period music.

            The same goes for Baroque music. You've heard one piece, you've heard 'em all. May be a controversial opinion, but it's mine and no one but me will change that, before you begin.
            Last edited by maestro267; 06-12-10, 18:13. Reason: Removed an 's'

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              #7
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Tina!


              I'm not suggesting her for alternative listening

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #8
                Originally posted by maestro267 View Post
                I am SO glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way. It's the same with most, if not all, Classical-period music.

                The same goes for Baroque music. You've heard one piece, you've heard 'em all. May be a controversial opinion, but it's mine and no one but me will change that, before you begin.
                Nonsense - Haydn isn't at all like that, & neither are most baroque composers.

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                • Martin

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maestro267 View Post
                  You've heard one piece, you've heard 'em all.
                  Perhaps you could try the opening of Les Elemens by J Fery Rebel, maestro. That doesn't sound like other baroque pieces at all!

                  Also warmly recommended to new year Mozart avoiders. (Or should that be 'evaders'?)

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                  • johnb
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2903

                    #10
                    I think the idea that once you hear a few bars of Mozart the rest is predictable is just one of those silly generalisations.

                    One of the notable things about Mozart is that if you try to predict how a phrase will develop you will almost always be surprised by what actually happens even though, once heard, what Mozart wrote sounds inevitable. I realise this is a slightly different point to that being made by previous posters but it's still worth making.

                    It's fine not to enjoy Mozart but wide generalisations have little validity.

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                    • Flosshilde
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      #11
                      I'll probably listen to some CDs I bought during Glasgow's classical record shop closing-down sale - some Haydn symphonies, & 'Castor et Pollux', plus some that I got for my birthday last April & haven't managed to listen to fully yet (especially the ROH Elektra), plus whatever I got for Christmas (if any - I haven't sent my list to Father Christmas yet).

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                      • rodney_h_d
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 103

                        #12
                        Originally posted by johnb View Post
                        .....One of the notable things about Mozart is that if you try to predict how a phrase will develop you will almost always be surprised by what actually happens.....
                        I agree with you - it's precisely what distinguishes the mature Mozart from most of his contemporaries.
                        Last edited by rodney_h_d; 06-12-10, 21:25.

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                        • Flosshilde
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rodney_h_d View Post
                          the mature Mozart
                          Is there such a thing? I feel that his music displays the traits of a young man - a tendency to show off & cram in as much as he could. I think that maturity in art is more to do with knowing what to leave out & how to use the material to greatest effect. Given that he was fairly young when he died I wonder how he would have developed had he lived as long as Haydn, for example.

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                          • Flosshilde
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7988

                            #14
                            But this thread is supposed to be about alternatives to Mozart, not about Mozart!

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                            • Roehre

                              #15
                              Moz-Art à la Haydn (by Schnittke)

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