Can you remember the occasion which sparked your first interest in music?

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  • Ventilhorn
    • Nov 2024

    Can you remember the occasion which sparked your first interest in music?

    Some of us have longer memories than others, but we must surely remember what, where and when it was that we decided music was for us.

    In my case, I have to go back to 1939, but my story must start a few years before that.

    We lived at that time in Shirley, near Croydon, and just down the road was a music teacher called Miss Cole. My two elder sisters and my brother were dispatched there for piano lessons but, at age of about four, I was considered too young and by 1939, my parents had decided that it was all a big waste of money anyway.

    Then came the outbreak of war and our school, not that far from Croydon Airport (a fighter station) was set to be evacuated, so the day before we were due to leave we all went down to say goodbye to Miss Cole and she started to play the piano. Quite unaccountably, I found that I was crying - not for my personal situation but for the beauty of the music. The following day, we were bussed lock, stock and barrel, down to Croydon East Station (not my big sister because her grammar school were sent down to Brighton) and we were taken eight miles . down the line, would you believe, to Redhill (where they also had a fighter station.

    My sister was seized by the billeting officer as her contribution to the war effort but my brother and I found ourselves with the delightful Mrs Thompson, who had a large house, with 4½ acres, a cook, two maids (Nellie and Annie) a chauffeur and a gardner, a Morris 8 and an Armstrong Siddley!

    What heaven for two young boys. There were two others sharing our room and they were twins from London's East End and they were known as "Do" and "Fag".

    Our parents were free to visit at any time, and one day their father (a Salvation Army man) came to visit and he brought his Euphonium with him. Of course, we insisted that he should play it and when he did, I found that I was crying again. (I was all of six years old by then)

    Just before Christmas, my parents discovered that they were re-opening a school in Beckenham, Kent; so they let their house in Shirley and rented one in Beckenham to qualify for us to become pupils. That was a case of "Frying pan into the Fire", because we were there all through the Blitz and Beckenham had the largest number of bombs fall on it of any London Borough, but because four fifths of Beckenham was park land, actual casualties were light.

    I digress. My brother gained a place in the local grammar school where the Music Master was Hubert Clifford no less and we all went along to the school orchestra concert, where they played Mozart's Jupiter Symphony and Mendelssohn's Violin Concert with the 13 year old Hugh Bean as soloist!

    No, I did not cry that time, but I did make up my mind that I had to become a musician and our subsequent move down to Salisbury, where I met my music master, the great Anthony F Brown, husband of Fiona and father of Iona, Timothy and Ian, sealed my fate.


    Why did I take up the horn? I really wanted to learn the clarinet, but the only instrument available was an old peashooter french horn with an F crook, so I agreed to learn that.
    Just as well, because I have absolutely minimal finger facility and, of all the instruments in the orchestra, the horn needs the least finger facility- it's nearly all done using only the first and second fingers of the left hand and the rest is done with the lip.*

    I have never regretted my choice.

    Now let's hear your story.

    VH

    * Trombone players don't need to use their fingers at all, of course, but who wants to pump a slide in and out?
    Last edited by Guest; 14-09-11, 20:03.
  • Don Petter

    #2
    The incident I remember was hearing the third movement of Prokofiev's Classical Symphony coming from my elder brother's bedroom, and asking him what that music was. It would have been in the early '50s, so I can't rival Venti on length of yore.

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    • Chris Newman
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2100

      #3
      My old Music Master, Jim Hodgson, was the local Parish Church Organist and ran a few pretty good choirs. The famous tenor, Wilfred Brown, an old boy of my school, used to get Isobel Bailey and other well known singers as soloists for him. In those days I knew nothing of this though. Jim was fairly laid-back and music lessons largely consisted of 20 minutes of singing from The National Songbook. After that Jim would put on 78rpm classical records which was an excuse for him to have a cigarette (he flicked the ash in the fireplace....Yes, teachers smoked in lessons!! Well, a few did).

      One day Jim briefly outlined the story of Smetana's Vltava before putting on a scratched old 78. Halfway through Jim had to wind up the spring and turn the record over. Excuse for a smoker's cough. The river by moonlight was almost inaudible with the scratches at the start of side two. As usual I lay my head on my arm and daydreamed. After that, a week passed until the next lesson.

      Next week, Jim was like a dog with two bones. A parent had given him an electric record player that played long playing 33rpm records. Excitedly he showed it to us and the handful of records he had to play on it. Lo and behold, one was of Vltava and he proudly re-explained the story of the two Vltavas (The Hot and the Cold as Czechs call them) played by flutes which meet as the river broadens out...you know it anyway. He played it, happily sat, fag in hand, without having to move. When it stopped he looked at us beaming and said

      "Different from last week, eh?"

      "Yes, sir. No rice crispies" said Larry Leat, the class clown.

      "No...er...rice crispies, Leat? Explain yourself."

      "Well, sir. No snap, crackle and pop." Some laughed, some groaned.

      Without knowing why I said "I could hear a triangle on the new version which was drowned by the snap, crackle and pop on the old one."

      Very good" said Jim. "Go one."

      "Well," I continued, "you could hear all sorts of details like the plinked violins going with the flutes...diddle diddle plink plink, diddle diddle plink plink." To my own surprise I was singing bits of Vltava quite animatedly. I had only heard it twice. I wasn't embarrassed and being Jim's class I didn't feel I was being a creep.

      "I don't believe it," said Jim scratching his head.

      A few minutes later as we filed out for Maths Jim pulled me to one side. "You liked that, didn't you, Newman?"

      "Well, yes. I did actually, sir. The idea of a piece of music telling a story without voices is new for me. I liked it."

      "Yes, a tone poem they call that. Tell you what, have you got a record player at home?"

      "Yes, I share it with my sisters. Tommy Steele, Bill Hailey and stuff like that."

      "Well, if you promise to bring it back tomorrow you can borrow it after school. If you want."

      "Thanks, Sir."

      And I did. It also had Peer Gynt Suites One and Two. (The NWGerman Radio Orchestra under Wilhelm Schuchter). I took it back next day as promised and looked in our local record shop. It was £1 - 7shillings and 6pence which I got out of my piggy bank with a knife and bought the next Saturday. Remember a pound could buy forty large Mars Bars in those days.

      Soon I was borrowing the 1812 Overture, Mosolov's Iron Foundry and a Hoffnung Concert. Then an "anonymous donor" (I bet it was Jim) gave boys concert tickets for Horsham Music Circle recitals. My group of pals grew in number and some of us heard The Amadeus and Allegri Quartets, Julius Katchen, Peter Katin, Colin Davis and the ECO, William Pleeth and family, Wilfred Brown, the Deller Consort (They were funny. I had just started playing rugby for the local Colts and discovered that Henry Purcell and others wrote songs just as naughty as the songs we sang after matches).

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      • Don Petter

        #4
        Chris's post has reminded me of an incident in Croydon, where I was living in the sixties. I was a keen member of the music library, and had found that if you suggested the purchase of a particular LP, you were pretty much guaranteed that they would obtain it for the library. (I assume that they had some fixed budget for classical purchases, and not many people bothered to suggest things.)

        I asked for a particular Deller Consort record, which included songs by Purcell and probably some other contemporary composers. The rule was that if it was your suggestion you would have the first opportunity to borrow the record, and I was duly informed by postcard that my choice was there to pick up.

        When I did so, the lady behind the desk, who had obviously either played the record or looked at some of the texts, peered over her spectacles and said "Some of the songs are a little bit ... restoration, aren't they?"

        Like Chris, I hadn't expected any of the innuendos (which, to be honest, are not that shocking by modern standards) so was quite an innocent party at that point, and looked suitably unaware of what she was referring to. I did very much enjoy the recital, though, and chuckled when thinking of her unexpected exposure to the 'restoration'.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37602

          #5
          Wonderful stories!

          I don't recall any specific time when I got my love for music: it was probably Mum playing Chopin on the black lacquered Bluthner upright we had in our S Ken flat up to my age 12. Being more of a listener then proper musician - I just dabble - I don't really qualify for this thread; but, please, keep 'em coming!

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #6
            My story is quite simple. Being wartime we only had three records at school for 'Music and Movement' They were the Tchaikovsky ballets. Later a friend's mother took us to Woolwich to see the Royal Ballet at a cinema,live performances, not film. I was hooked. My mother was musical and we had a few semi-classical works which I played a lot. Lilac Time, which I discovered was Schubert, Brahms Hungarian Dances, etc.
            The same friend whose mother took us to the ballet went to Trinity in Mandeville Place and Muir Mathieson suggested she attended rehearsals to get inside the music. At 17 I went with her, The BBC librarian Bill
            Borner suggested I try for a job at the music library where he worked, before years as the BBCSO librarian.
            I hardly ever left music although old companies crashed all the time. Somewhere along the line I studied the piano but I knew I wasn't very good so dropped it. I've always loved rehearsals more than concerts because one can learn so much.

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8780

              #7
              What a wonderful thread and what already magical postings so why should I spoil it by moving/widening the goalposts to include pop music? Because that is where music started for me!
              It was the 60s and I was a new boy at polytechnic (remember them?) on a grant (remember those) that I hoped might stretch to a record collection.
              I went ito a Record shop and asked to hear a single (remember?) getting rave reviews, in a booth (remember them?) and was blown away by Sounds of Silence by a new US duo Simon and Garfunkel. The mix of very then lyrics and a memorable melody ad I wa off and away in a "race" I am still running.
              To prove that everything that goes around comes around yesterday my daughter emailed to ask if I'd seen that YouTube was awash with postings of Paul Simon performing the aforementioned Sounds of Silence at the 9/11 commemoration event.
              Watching it back it all came - older but not frail as he nears his 70th birthday - his voice IMHO holding up and his guitar work as subtle yet exact as ever. No VH tears but almost!
              As to what brought me to classical music it was hearing the aria of the Goldbergs by Glenn Gould (1981 version) roaring into the first variation on dare I say Breakfast(?) - the singing tone and the different "shadings" and I was off on another circuit - the joy - the sheer joy.

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              • Roslynmuse
                Full Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 1236

                #8
                Chris - we had that Grieg/ Smetana LP (HMV Concert Classics) at home when I was growing up - also the Elegiac Melodies, I seem to recall.

                VH - my childhood tears were over the theme-tune to 'Going For A Song' - Respighi's The Birds - no idea why as a ?five-year-old it touched me so much, but it did.

                I got obsessed with Chopin at a tender age - seven or eight - and from my dad's record collection to R3 (a radio was the gift of an inspirational English teacher at school when I was 10) was a short step.

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12234

                  #9
                  I also grew up in the 1960's and my first exposure to music was of the pop variety (which I can still listen to with pleasure). Soon after Churchill's death in 1965 the BBC repeated the series called 'The Valiant Years' and I was so taken by the theme music (by Richard Rodgers) that I had to get it on record. The only one my local record shop could find was played by the Band of the Grenadier Guards conducted by Major Rodney Bashford. I was thrilled by the sound of the military band and grabbed hold of as many marches LP's as I could find. I still love those as well.

                  Classical music at school in those years was for cissies so I never really got hooked but I do recall our music master, Mr Sherratt, playing Petrushka on a school record player and him recounting the sad tale of the puppet's fate so something must have stuck.

                  Then out of the blue, on May 23 1970 I happened to hear (on Radio 2 indeed) the BBC Concert Orchestra under Sidney Torch play the Prelude to Act 3 of Lohengrin and it was a real Damascus moment. I badgered my beloved and bemused mother to get it on LP for my 16th birthday which she did (LSO/Dorati) and I was well and truly hooked. I've never looked back.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • Chris Newman
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2100

                    #10
                    Roslynmuse,
                    Thank you for reminding me of the Grieg Elegiac Melodies. It would have been Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt's orchestra then. I had completeley forgotten the Grieg Elegiac Melodies were on the record. NOW I remember, When JFK was assassinated the TV programmes being interrupted. The announcement was made, then while they waited for Richard Dimbleby to get to the studio there were no moving pictures, but they played the Elegiac Melodies, some Elgar and Barber's Adagio (it was the first time ever I heard that and I never forgot it). Yes, it was HMV Concert Classics. They were quite expensive for a mid-range LP. Suddenly, Golden Guinea brought the prices down (One Pound and One shilling) a lot then. Music for Pleasure and Saga brought the prices right down (7/6d..remember how we wrote 7 shillings and 6 pence? About 35p today). Mind you records were much more expensive then pound for pound.
                    Best wishes
                    Chris.

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                    • rauschwerk
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1480

                      #11
                      Chopin's Raindrop Prelude used to move me to tears when I was 5 or 6. My mother, who was a good pianist, would have played it to me. This response to music was one of the things which persuaded my second piano teacher, Mr Mehta, to take me on. He had studied with Solomon and was a lovely gentle man. I was making good progress with him (which is very far from saying that I would have made a career as a pianist) when the family moved to Malaya. Cut off from my teacher and from most of my sources of musical nourishment, I refused to touch the piano for many months.

                      The rest of my musical education was, I am sorry to say, characterised by indifferent teaching and lack of encouragement.

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                      • Roehre

                        #12
                        A broadcast of Leonore III during the interval of a football match on the tele at Beethoven's 200th birthday

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                        • Auferstehen2

                          #13
                          Ah yes, but which football teams Roehre?

                          Mario

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12960

                            #14
                            Ref: OP

                            Singing in a choir as a treb 'Never weather-beaten sail' and being utterly unable to get it out of my head for weeks and weeks despite Beatles, Stones et al. I knew intuitively from then on that this was the musical soundscape i really lived in whatever external stimulants from other musical sources might arrive.

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                            • Roehre

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Auferstehen2 View Post
                              Ah yes, but which football teams Roehre?

                              Mario
                              Might have been Ajax Amsterdam -Liverpool, but further: I haven't a clue

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