Edinburgh Festival - Sharon Kam and Enrico Pace (clarinet and piano recital)

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  • Master Jacques
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    • Feb 2012
    • 1927

    Edinburgh Festival - Sharon Kam and Enrico Pace (clarinet and piano recital)

    This is a thoughtful, reflective and well-played programme, imaginatively programmed, and is balm to the ears on a blistering hot summer morning. What was not balm to the ears, was the fatuous choice of "interval filler" - a rip-roaring recording of Beethoven's massive Choral Fantasia, which completely spoiled the mood and provided no contemplative rest for ears between the two halves of the concert.

    The business of filler music must have exercised Forumite minds before, but this was a shocking example of the disgusting practise at its worst! I've actually put in a complaint, as quoted below. I do not expect a sensible response, of course.

    The business of filling live concert intervals with music, rather than giving our ears a rest from composed sound, through a linked radio talk or some other useful alternative, has become endemic - a sad sign of the decline of public broadcasting, and the inept laziness of Radio 3's programmers.

    Today was a classic eye-roller: in the interval of a gentle and reflective clarinet and piano recital from the Edinburgh Festival, containing some rare works which it would have good to have learned more about, we had our ears pulverised by an irrelevant recording of Beethoven's Choral Fantasia, for solo piano, orchestra and large chorus.

    Anyone who thought this was sensible, expedient or appropriate needs to have a serious think about whether they're in the right career.

    I don't want a pro forma response, please, about costs. That's nonsense. Given the wealth of archive talks material available, it wouldn't take much gumption to find something appropriate there, or to ask a local music critic to say a few words about the content of the concert. It just takes a little professionalism.

    Removing musical filler from concert intervals would (a) better respect the live artists; (b) demonstrate good taste, which is lacking; and (c) add immeasurably to the pleasure of your sound-battered listeners.

    Playing music in the middle of a musical event is not merely stupid and lazy. It is utterly counterproductive, sending the message "we don't care a damn about this concert, and it's all space filling anyway".
  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    #2
    Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
    This is a thoughtful, reflective and well-played programme, imaginatively programmed, and is balm to the ears on a blistering hot summer morning. What was not balm to the ears, was the fatuous choice of "interval filler" - a rip-roaring recording of Beethoven's massive Choral Fantasia, which completely spoiled the mood and provided no contemplative rest for ears between the two halves of the concert.

    The business of filler music must have exercised Forumite minds before, but this was a shocking example of the disgusting practise at its worst! I've actually put in a complaint, as quoted below. I do not expect a sensible response, of course.

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    • Master Jacques
      Full Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1927

      #3
      Thank you for the link - the Horowitz piece made a delightful envoi to an excellent programme.

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      • pastoralguy
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7799

        #4
        I was at this concert and I’ve never experienced a more sparsely attended Festival concert in my life. Almost embarrassing how few people were there.

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        • Master Jacques
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          • Feb 2012
          • 1927

          #5
          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
          I was at this concert and I’ve never experienced a more sparsely attended Festival concert in my life. Almost embarrassing how few people were there.
          I'm sorry (if not surprised) to hear that, though you made a good stab at enthusiastic applause - and quite right too!

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          • pastoralguy
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7799

            #6
            Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
            I'm sorry (if not surprised) to hear that, though you made a good stab at enthusiastic applause - and quite right too!
            Two concerts at the Usher Hall that we have tickets for have had the Upper Circle closed and the tickets holders upgraded. One of these concerts features the mighty Philadelphia Orchestra! It’s probably due to the fact the are playing Florence Price’s Second Symphony in the second half. However, a feature of the Edinburgh Festival is that it has often performed works that one wouldn’t normally get to hear. Alas, the spirit of adventure seems to be staying home this year.

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            • CallMePaul
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              • Jan 2014
              • 802

              #7
              Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
              This is a thoughtful, reflective and well-played programme, imaginatively programmed, and is balm to the ears on a blistering hot summer morning. What was not balm to the ears, was the fatuous choice of "interval filler" - a rip-roaring recording of Beethoven's massive Choral Fantasia, which completely spoiled the mood and provided no contemplative rest for ears between the two halves of the concert.

              The business of filler music must have exercised Forumite minds before, but this was a shocking example of the disgusting practise at its worst! I've actually put in a complaint, as quoted below. I do not expect a sensible response, of course.
              I can remember when the interval in these concerts was taken up with talks or readings about Edinburgh life, and many of them were fascinating. If the BBC cannot commission new interval talks then why not repeat some from earlier years? If I go to a concert I do not expect to hear recorded music in the interval, nor do I want this on the radio! Why cannot the BBC bring back the interval talk - it cannot cost a huge amount (this goes for all live broadcasts, not just the Edinburgh Festival)?

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              • Master Jacques
                Full Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1927

                #8
                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                Two concerts at the Usher Hall that we have tickets for have had the Upper Circle closed and the tickets holders upgraded. One of these concerts features the mighty Philadelphia Orchestra! It’s probably due to the fact the are playing Florence Price’s Second Symphony in the second half. However, a feature of the Edinburgh Festival is that it has often performed works that one wouldn’t normally get to hear. Alas, the spirit of adventure seems to be staying home this year.
                Hmm. I am not sure that the Spirit of Adventure would have much truck with Florence Price's Second Symphony. If any potential audience members had caught a movement from it on BBC R3's appalling morning show (as they often would), it's possibly a case of "once bitten, twice shy".

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                • Master Jacques
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1927

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                  I can remember when the interval in these concerts was taken up with talks or readings about Edinburgh life, and many of them were fascinating. If the BBC cannot commission new interval talks then why not repeat some from earlier years? If I go to a concert I do not expect to hear recorded music in the interval, nor do I want this on the radio! Why cannot the BBC bring back the interval talk - it cannot cost a huge amount (this goes for all live broadcasts, not just the Edinburgh Festival)?
                  Well said. Why not suggest it to R3? If you don't wish to make a full complaint, there's always the 'comments' form, though I'm not sure that will guarantee a reply:


                  If enough people do it, R3 might take a little more notice.

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                  • pastoralguy
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7799

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Master Jacques View Post
                    Hmm. I am not sure that the Spirit of Adventure would have much truck with Florence Price's Second Symphony. If any potential audience members had caught a movement from it on BBC R3's appalling morning show (as they often would), it's possibly a case of "once bitten, twice shy".
                    Well, they won’t know they don’t like it if they don’t hear it, will they?

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                    • Master Jacques
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1927

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      Well, they won’t know they don’t like it if they don’t hear it, will they?
                      If they tune in to Radio 3 in the mornings, they'll have been drip fed it, one movement at a time, over a period of years. There's no avoiding it. So perhaps the drip feeding has satiated many people's appetite for Florence Price's music. It is certainly possible that "adventurous" might not be the first word which comes to mind for absolutely everyone who's heard it.

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                      • bluestateprommer
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3019

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                        I was at this concert and I’ve never experienced a more sparsely attended Festival concert in my life. Almost embarrassing how few people were there.
                        FWIW, Donald MacLeod alluded to the less-than-full house for the SK/EP recital in his intro, acknowledging that more famous names tend to fill the hall, like Anne Sofie von Otter or the Takacs Quartet. In a sense, big-name acts like those help cover for the relatively unfamiliar performers. In an ideal world, every classical performer who graces the EIF would sell out, or at least very well, and be a draw like Nicola Benedetti or the Kanneh-Masons. But for good or ill, that's not the reality. Sharon Kim and Enrico Pace are excellent performers, and this EIF concert was very good indeed (one or two clarinet 'honks' aside, unless that was the intention in the respective scores ;) ), well worth a listen, and lucky folks who were there in person.

                        PS: Also forwarded info about this concert to a clarinetist friend, who was thrilled to see the program. Will have to ask later for friend's thoughts on this concert.
                        Last edited by bluestateprommer; 18-08-22, 21:06.

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