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  • oddoneout
    Full Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 9218

    Originally posted by Cockney Sparrow View Post
    An email isn't a complaint - there is a process for complaints, so that would be the next step. I'm sure you know, you get an acknowledgement and then a polite email explaining why the BBC doesn't need to agree with whichever complaint you made.

    I think the next step is to complain to OFCOM, but I'd need to check the process as I've never gone that far. Even egregious breaches of the BBC's obligations (I understand) aren't taken up by OFGEM because (I also understand) basically they aren't interested..........
    The first couple or 3 weren't complaints they were specific queries, and I had autoreplies ( "we get too many emails to be [.....] to reply individually"), but after that I did send complaints and got no response at all.
    On the other hand when I contacted Through the Night about having repeated most of an Afternoon Concert broadcast earlier in the day I quickly got a nice email back from the Lead Producer explaining it was a mistake.
    I know that the pandemic has caused difficulties but the occasional attempts at contact (not about A. Concert) pre-pandemic didn't fare any better frankly.

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    • gradus
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5612

      Maestoso, Grandioso indeed, the Great Gate of Kiev must have been quite something given this afternoon's rip-snorting performance by the Ulster Orchestra. Not the only time - Tchaik 3rd Orchestral Suite sticks in the memory - I've heard performances by this orchestra that would be greeted with tumultuous applause by any Proms audience. A conductor, Daniele Rustioni, unafraid of being accused of vulgarity and making one hell of a racket at the slowest pace imaginable that brought out the air percussionist in me.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9218

        Wonders will never cease - all the items played were listed in the pre-broadcast info box, and in the order they appeared there. As usual, too much presenter input (and that's nothing to do with whether I like the person concerned or not) and some very intrusive adverts, but also a pleasing selection of items. There was no connection between them, as is now standard for AC (not a concert so no need for programme planning as if it was?), but they followed on very well as far as this listener was concerned. The Handel aria that is listed but doesn't appear in the "Music Played" list was played, in case anyone wants to know.

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
          Wonders will never cease - all the items played were listed in the pre-broadcast info box, and in the order they appeared there. As usual, too much presenter input (and that's nothing to do with whether I like the person concerned or not) and some very intrusive adverts, but also a pleasing selection of items. There was no connection between them, as is now standard for AC (not a concert so no need for programme planning as if it was?), but they followed on very well as far as this listener was concerned. The Handel aria that is listed but doesn't appear in the "Music Played" list was played, in case anyone wants to know.
          How very Islamophilic of them. After all, only Allah is perfect.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 9218

            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            How very Islamophilic of them. After all, only Allah is perfect.
            As the Amish quiltmakers know.

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9218

              Who writes this stuff?
              We'll hear the opera divided in two parts, spread around the afternoon.
              my bold.
              My first thought was " smeared" followed by "peanut butter sarnie". In fact it seems to be a fairly standard format of first part, interval music, second part.

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              • Frances_iom
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 2413

                [QUOTE=oddoneout;873514... In fact it seems to be a fairly standard format of first part, interval music, second part.[/QUOTE]
                that's assuming a lot - smearing works is an apt description of what the totally misnamed "Afternoon Concert" does - Thursdays used to be a complete Opera broadcast complete with all parts broadcast in the same sequence as would be heard in an opera house - with AC there is no such 'guarantee' .

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37710

                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  Who writes this stuff?
                  my bold.
                  My first thought was " smeared" followed by "peanut butter sarnie". In fact it seems to be a fairly standard format of first part, interval music, second part.
                  "Benedicite omnia opera" was always recited before school meals, so I learned early on they had something to do with food.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26540

                    The feast of French music & orchestras promised in all listings for the afternoons this week is going well:



                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9218

                      Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                      The feast of French music & orchestras promised in all listings for the afternoons this week is going well:



                      The irony being that today we have been presented with a more detailed schedule than is usual these days, with works and approximate timings. However even with that detail it doesn't exclude random other pieces appearing as well, although making two complete substitutions in the first hour is going some even by current AC standards - or lack of. Days when the schedule says "To include" are the ones when things get aired in any order together with other bits and pieces not declared on the menu. I suppose the assumption is that as nobody listens in real time it doesn't matter 'cos folk can just select from whatever catch-up they use... with the benefit presumably of being able to edit out the adverts and increasing quantity of presenter input.

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                      • gurnemanz
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7391

                        Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                        The feast of French music & orchestras promised in all listings for the afternoons this week is going well:



                        The programme description state "features performances by French orchestras", not mentioning either "feast" or indeed "French music".

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6798

                          Well they have the Saint-Saens Violin Concerto no,3 on now which I’m rather enjoying .It doesn’t get played much and I don’t understand why …

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26540

                            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                            Well they have the Saint-Saens Violin Concerto no,3 on now which I’m rather enjoying .It doesn’t get played much and I don’t understand why …
                            Yes - I actually played in a performance of it late last year. It’s pleasant enough.

                            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                            The programme description state "features performances by French orchestras", not mentioning either "feast" or indeed "French music".
                            Fair enough, but the entirely non-French half hour I caught seemed entirely out of keeping with the billing.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Andrew Slater
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1794

                              The Williams piece was actually preceded by Saint-Saëns' Bacchanale, as per the billing, but this hasn't appeared in the playlist! (That will play havoc with my database ....)

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                              • Andrew Slater
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1794

                                Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
                                The Williams piece was actually preceded by Saint-Saëns' Bacchanale, as per the billing, but this hasn't appeared in the playlist! (That will play havoc with my database ....)
                                Update: Saint-Saëns' Bacchanale now appears at the end of the playlist for Lunchtime Concert, but it wasn't actually broadcast as part of that programme, and it doesn't play in Sounds for that programme, although it's listed there too. It appears at the beginning of Sounds for Afternoon Concert, but is not listed in its playlist and (possibly as a result) the beginning of the piece is missing in Sounds. (The programme's opening announcement is consequently missing.) My database has faithfully copied the error: I can correct that....

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