Afternoon Concert - general thread

[smittims]

The three movements of Manuel Ponce's guitar concerto were split over three episodes of 'Composer of the week'. It reminds me of William Haley's prescription for the Third Programme: 'No cuts, no fixed points'. If something is worth broadcasting, its' worth taking however much time it needs to do it completely.

It's one of the most significant differences between Radio3 today and what it was when it was 'the envy of the world'. I'll be interested to see if Sam , when he puts on a tie (if he owns one) will do anything about this (if he's even heard of William Haley).

[oddoneout]

Yes that’s why I raised it: cuckoo. Is it just cloth-eared pragmatism, making the timings fit, across the afternoons, and to hell with the actual music and the composer’s intentions?

Can't see why timings should be an issue - they construct the programme so can juggle content to fit -leaving out one of the filleted pieces as a suggestion. There are often odd bits and pieces broadcast that don't appear on the schedule so more evidence of room for manoeuvre. The previous most awkward dismemberment was an opera(Gluck?) where some Acts were split over consecutive days - but at least the overall result was Acts in order. Perhaps messing up an overtly narrative work was a step too far, but a quartet (by an unfamiliar/unknown female) is fair game? Would they do it to a Beethoven quartet?
Actually, seeing the direction of travel perhaps it's only a matter of time...

[cloughie]

The slot is edging ever closer to the morning schedule format. I used to enjoy listening, and in fact was more likely to do so than listen to the evening concert as the repertoire tended to be more unfamiliar. While the shorter pieces may be of interest the filleted and dismembered components that are also now included just make for an unsatisfyingly* bitty result, and the major work seems too often for my liking to be same old same old big symphonic, which I'm not keen on.

*I see that neither the spell checker nor Google like this word, both wanting me to to use "unsatisfying" instead. Shan't, so there.

*I’m with you there Odders!

Afternoons used to be really good before they decided to mess them about!

[oddoneout]

Not a regular listener to the ‘show’, one movement of the Karelia Suite and only the last movement of Schubert D664 were real disappointments this afternoon.

The slot is edging ever closer to the morning schedule format. I used to enjoy listening, and in fact was more likely to do so than listen to the evening concert as the repertoire tended to be more unfamiliar. While the shorter pieces may be of interest the filleted and dismembered components that are also now included just make for an unsatisfyingly* bitty result, and the major work seems too often for my liking to be same old same old big symphonic, which I'm not keen on.

*I see that neither the spell checker nor Google like this word, both wanting me to to use "unsatisfying" instead. Shan't, so there.

[Alison]

Not a regular listener to the ‘show’, one movement of the Karelia Suite and only the last movement of Schubert D664 were real disappointments this afternoon.

[Nick Armstrong]

I see we get her husband's quartet in full in one go tomorrow - so why is hers dismembered? Even by the bizarre standards that seem to apply to Afternoon Concert these days that's odd; previous disassembly has at least been sequential as far as I can remember.

Yes that’s why I raised it: cuckoo. Is it just cloth-eared pragmatism, making the timings fit, across the afternoons, and to hell with the actual music and the composer’s intentions?

[oddoneout]

In addition, each day a different composer gets the morning schedule filleting treatment.

I see we get her husband's quartet in full in one go tomorrow - so why is hers dismembered? Even by the bizarre standards that seem to apply to Afternoon Concert these days that's odd; previous disassembly has at least been sequential as far as I can remember.

[Nick Armstrong]

I'm willing to bet she didn't leave instructions in her will that this was the way in which the work had to be performed.

I was going to add a second para along similar lines (along with words like: disrespectful/spinning/in/her/grave), but thought I’d leave it to others to comment…!

[Serial_Apologist]

Some particularly mad programming this week: poor old Amanda Maier-Röntgen‘s string quartet scattered across 3 days, at random it seems: last movement first with the second movement later on Monday afternoon… then the third movement on Tuesday, with the first movement on Wednesday….

I'm willing to bet she didn't leave instructions in her will that this was the way in which the work had to be performed.

[Nick Armstrong]

Afternoon Concert is becoming more and more a no-go area for me; splitting works up not just over the afternoon's programme but over different days…

Some particularly mad programming this week: poor old Amanda Maier-Röntgen‘s string quartet scattered across 3 days, at random it seems: last movement first with the second movement later on Monday afternoon… then the third movement on Tuesday, with the first movement on Wednesday….

[JasonPalmer]

Ahhh lovely

Chopin
Waltz in A flat, op. 34/1; Waltz No. 7 in C sharp minor, op. 64/2
Martín García García, piano

[JasonPalmer]

Today's concert from Tokyo looks good.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001gts6

[smittims]

Yes, but it put me in mind of those TV channels where you've been totally absorbed in a favourite film and just before the end a message pops up in the corner 'Next up. flesh-eating zombies!''.

[oddoneout]

On Afternooon Concert yesterday, 3 January at about 4.55 pm , just before the end of 'Sinfonia Antartica' the announcer broke in on the music before it had finished. Perhaps he thought the wind machine wasn't part of the msuic, but in fact the cellos and basses are still playing at that point.

I've tried complaining to the BBC online but their system seems to out of order. I was asked to 'click the link ' in an e-mail they sent me but the 'link' was just a paragraph of computer-print, so there awas nothing to 'click'! A useful way of stopping us complaining.

Well they've got to fit in all the new-form R3 guff - trailers etc - before the start of the next programme - so can't be doing with waiting for extraneous noises to finish...

[smittims]

On Afternooon Concert yesterday, 3 January at about 4.55 pm , just before the end of 'Sinfonia Antartica' the announcer broke in on the music before it had finished. Perhaps he thought the wind machine wasn't part of the msuic, but in fact the cellos and basses are still playing at that point.

I've tried complaining to the BBC online but their system seems to out of order. I was asked to 'click the link ' in an e-mail they sent me but the 'link' was just a paragraph of computer-print, so there awas nothing to 'click'! A useful way of stopping us complaining.