Afternoon Concert - general thread

[JasonPalmer]

Eh,what, looks like the webstite is about a completely different concert....how annoying,

Edit..my mistake I was looking at afternoon concert when the concert is the lunchtime concert

[JasonPalmer]

Enjoying the end of today's afternoon concert makes me wish I had tuned in earlier.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001hg59

Maybe one for a listen again sometime.

[Bryn]

Ouch! Listening again, did I just hear Ian Skelly, in his closing comments, describe Prokofiev's Op. 16 Piano Concerto as being composed when its Prokofiev was but 22? Hmm, the original from which the authorised version, maybe, but what we know as the 2nd Piano Concerto actually came after the popular 3rd, when its composer was into his 30s. Prokofiev is said to have claimed to have completely recomposed the work. Those who know both the Cello Concerto and the Symphony-Concert might get some idea of how far Prokofiev might have gone in his recomposition

[edashtav]

Much enjoying this afternoon's offering. I might have preferred the works contextualised differently but that's just me. The current recorded performance of Ukraine-born Serge Prokofiev's 2nd (and, to me, greatest) Piano Concerto is a keeper! The Fauré was quite a find, too.

I agree on both counts!

[oddoneout]

This one really is about Afternoon Concert, rather than Lunchtime Concert. Much enjoying this afternoon's offering. I might have preferred the works contextualised differently but that's just me. The current recorded performance of Ukraine-born Serge Prokofiev's 2nd (and, to me, greatest) Piano Concerto is a keeper! The Fauré was quite a find, too.

It isn't just you; it's something I've grumbled about for quite some time now. It started I think with the disassembly of concert recordings, the parts of which then found themselves scattered between other bits and pieces. By the way was there any indication why the Raff symphony became 2 movements of a Schubert Mass?

[Nick Armstrong]

This one really is about Afternoon Concert, rather than Lunchtime Concert. Much enjoying this afternoon's offering. I might have preferred the works contextualised differently but that's just me. The current recorded performance of Ukraine-born Serge Prokofiev's 2nd (and, to me, greatest) Piano Concerto is a keeper! The Fauré was quite a find, too.

Yes the Fauré Caligula! Who knew? Very good, fresh performance

[Bryn]

This one really is about Afternoon Concert, rather than Lunchtime Concert. Much enjoying this afternoon's offering. I might have preferred the works contextualised differently but that's just me. The current recorded performance of Ukraine-born Serge Prokofiev's 2nd (and, to me, greatest) Piano Concerto is a keeper! The Fauré was quite a find, too.

[JasonPalmer]

Just in and catching the end of these lovely Goldberg variations....

[oddoneout]

I'm going to hazard a guess that the answer to today's AC challenge is "Spain".

[Frances_iom]

Caught the end of that, the common link was the number 3....

very good - you are would appear to be one of the audience they seek so enjoy the programmes.

[JasonPalmer]

Caught the end of that, the common link was the number 3....

[oddoneout]

Another one bites the dust. In addition to the bits and bobs infiltration, with the added spice of dismemberment and serialisation, and increasing chat, we now have tweets. In my mind AC has now become Afternooon Cheet - the concert element has been sacrificed to chat'n'tweet (my first attempt at a neologism using those elements is not suitable for polite society); it would seem that playing longer pieces without some sort of "popular appeal" contribution to sugar the pill(rubbish as above) is a step too far these days.

The AC schedule listing, never that great at the best of times in terms of accuracy has a good one today. In extracts from "Macbeth", two librettists have become composers, with Andrea Maffei appearing in big bold , the way the composer normally does, alongside a picture which isn't him, with Piave appearing below listed as Composer, and some nonentity by the name of Verdi also listed as Composer, in third place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001h5sy

More delights...I've just listened to the close of the programme and apparently there was a "a guess the theme/common link" game going on, with winners announced at the end.

[Serial_Apologist]

*I’m with you there Odders!

Afternoons used to be really good before they decided to mess them about!

Indeed so - some of us harboured hopes that Afternoon Concert would remain unspoilt by "modernisation", and one of the last remnants of the standards Radio 3 used touphold.

[cloughie]

The three movements of Manuel Ponce's guitar concerto were split over three episodes of 'Composer of the week'. It reminds me of William Haley's prescription for the Third Programme: 'No cuts, no fixed points'. If something is worth broadcasting, its' worth taking however much time it needs to do it completely.

It's one of the most significant differences between Radio3 today and what it was when it was 'the envy of the world'. I'll be interested to see if Sam , when he puts on a tie (if he owns one) will do anything about this (if he's even heard of William Haley).

He probably thinks he rocked around the clock! With his CFM background we can probably expect more split shifts for full works!

[oddoneout]

The three movements of Manuel Ponce's guitar concerto were split over three episodes of 'Composer of the week'. It reminds me of William Haley's prescription for the Third Programme: 'No cuts, no fixed points'. If something is worth broadcasting, its' worth taking however much time it needs to do it completely.

It's one of the most significant differences between Radio3 today and what it was when it was 'the envy of the world'. I'll be interested to see if Sam , when he puts on a tie (if he owns one) will do anything about this (if he's even heard of William Haley).

Composer of the Week , by its very nature, will tend to have part works, and isn't really directly comparable to Afternoon Concert, in which I think its reasonable to expect that works will be played complete, and in one go. Chopping things up either to play just one bit, or to spread the set out over the day's programme or several days is not what the title says to me.