Afternoon Concert - general thread

[Nick Armstrong]

There have been two posts on a thread using its old name today: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...Afternoon-on-3

Thanks. I’ve merged the two under the current programme title.

[oddoneout]

(Strangely I can find no previous general thread for this programme)

Greatly enjoyed hearing Dvořák’s lovely and underrated (in terms of frequency of performance) Third Symphony today, beautifully played and conducted

Antonín Dvořák: Symphony No. 3 in E flat, op. 10

German Symphony Orchestra, Berlin
Jakub Hrůša

It starts around 49 minutes into the programme

I see the online info has been amended a bit. Originally we were supposed to have 2 Dvorak symphonies it reckoned, and no mention of Strauss. Left me thoroughly confused - I knew I had missed the first 10 or so minutes of the broadcast and I don't know AD No3 that well, but I was certain I would have noticed if No 9 had been on - and I do know enough not to confuse it with the Strauss Metamorphosen. I left that drearing on at low volume hoping that something better would turn up, having realised the online info wasn't going to enlighten, and right at the end was some more(not No9) Dvorak.

[Nick Armstrong]

I see the online info has been amended a bit. Originally we were supposed to have 2 Dvorak symphonies it reckoned, and no mention of Strauss. Left me thoroughly confused - I knew I had missed the first 10 or so minutes of the broadcast and I don't know AD No3 that well, but I was certain I would have noticed if No 9 had been on - and I do know enough not to confuse it with the Strauss Metamorphosen. I left that drearing on at low volume hoping that something better would turn up, having realised the online info wasn't going to enlighten, and right at the end was some more(not No9) Dvorak.

I listened in my own time on “Soundzzzz” on the iPad and headed straight for No 3 - wasn’t aware of the confusion

[Wychwood]

Yes, lovely to hear that symphony today -- and what about programming the Fourth more often, too? Radio 3 afternoons are on a high just now in my view: last week's recordings of BBC orchestras in music well off the beaten track (for me at least) were a revelation.

[Nick Armstrong]

Yes, lovely to hear that symphony today -- and what about programming the Fourth more often, too? Radio 3 afternoons are on a high just now in my view: last week's recordings of BBC orchestras in music well off the beaten track (for me at least) were a revelation.

Agreed - not least about Dvořák 4

[cloughie]

Agreed - not least about Dvořák 4

Well, you can always dig out your Kertesz set!

[Nick Armstrong]

Well, you can always dig out your Kertesz set!

Rowicki best in No 4

But I want hear fresh new performances

[edashtav]

I greatly enjoyed Vorisek’s Grand Rondeau for Piano trio and orchestra this afternoon played by the Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra and Czech soloists. It was a lively piece in the spirit of Hummel and Weber underpinned by a firm structure and spiced with a brilliance of invention. The orchestral parts sometimes nodded in the direction of early Beethoven and, occasionally, foreshadowed Schubert. The performance delighted the audience in Prague who demanded and got a well-characterised finale from Dvorak’s Dumky trio as encore.

The chamber orchestra offered Serenades for strings by Suk and Dvorak, which showed how much Suk owed to Dvorak, his teacher, and to Grieg. The performance of the Dvorak was marvellously idiomatic.

[oddoneout]

I greatly enjoyed Vorisek’s Grand Rondeau for Piano trio and orchestra this afternoon played by the Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra and Czech soloists. It was a lively piece in the spirit of Hummel and Weber underpinned by a firm structure and spiced with a brilliance of invention. The orchestral parts sometimes nodded in the detection of early Beethoven and, occasionally, foreshadowed Schubert. The performance delighted the audience in Prague who demanded and got a well-characterised finale from Dvorak’s Dumky trio as encore.

The chamber orchestra offered Serenades for strings by Suk and Dvorak, which showed how much Suk owed to Dvorak, his teacher, and to Grieg. The performance of the Dvorak was marvellously idiomatic.

It was fun wasn't it? I enjoyed the whole concert, and am always happy to hear the Dvorak Serenade.
I see that the info for that programme is rubbish. The Janacek was the bit they couldn't play and led to CE starting early, and the other two items came after CE.

Leos Janáček
The Cunning Little Vixen Suite (2nd mvt)

Orchestrator: Václav Talich. Music Arranger: Václav Smetáček. Orchestra: Czech Philharmonic. Conductor: Jiří Bělohlávek.
JANACEK: VARIOUS. CHANDOS. 3-4.

Träd
We shall walk through the valley in peace

Music Arranger: Undine Smith Moore. Choir: Choir of Clare College, Cambridge. Conductor: Graham Ross.

Charles Villiers Stanford
Psalms 53, 54

Composer: Joseph Barnby. Performer: George Gillow. Performer: Samuel Jones. Choir: Choir of Clare College, Cambridge. Conductor: Graham Ross.

I do wonder why they bother putting things online if they are wrong, better to leave them out.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I greatly enjoyed Vorisek’s Grand Rondeau for Piano trio and orchestra this afternoon played by the Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra and Czech soloists. It was a lively piece in the spirit of Hummel and Weber underpinned by a firm structure and spiced with a brilliance of invention. The orchestral parts sometimes nodded in the detection of early Beethoven and, occasionally, foreshadowed Schubert. The performance delighted the audience in Prague who demanded and got a well-characterised finale from Dvorak’s Dumky trio as encore.

The chamber orchestra offered Serenades for strings by Suk and Dvorak, which showed how much Suk owed to Dvorak, his teacher, and to Grieg. The performance of the Dvorak was marvellously idiomatic.

This has been a consistently interesting series of concerts all week with a mixture of the familiar and works I have never heard before....

[Nick Armstrong]

I greatly enjoyed Vorisek’s Grand Rondeau for Piano trio and orchestra this afternoon played by the Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra and Czech soloists

...

The chamber orchestra offered Serenades for strings by Suk and Dvorak, which showed how much Suk owed to Dvorak, his teacher, and to Grieg. The performance of the Dvorak was marvellously idiomatic.

Oh thanks for this. Had forgotten to download this concert, and shall now do so as it’s one I particularly want to hear

[Ein Heldenleben]

Oh thanks for this. Had forgotten to download this concert, and shall now do so as it’s one I particularly want to hear

Terrific end to this superb week of Czech music with a splendid New World from the Czech Phil and Bychkov . Honestly everything he touches turns to gold...

[Nick Armstrong]

An intriguing performance of Mendelssohn’s Italian Symphony (in the third hour of Afternoon Concert) by the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra under Oksana Lyniv.

Not the usual version I’ve known backwards (almost) since music O-level, but an 1834 rewrite by the composer which I’ve never heard before (although Gardiner apparently recorded it with the VPO). The first movement is more or less unaltered, but the last three have surprising and quite marked melodic changes.

My first reaction was that the changes were not improvements, losing some of the music’s individuality in favour of something more prosaic.

That this wasn’t just the result of familiarity with the original version is suggested by Edward Greenfield’s comment on the revisions:

Surprisingly for so perceptive a composer he undermined the original's freshness, smoothing over melodic lines and extending linking passages. A fascinating comment on the danger of second thoughts after white-hot inspiration.

[oddoneout]

An intriguing performance of Mendelssohn’s Italian Symphony (in the third hour of Afternoon Concert) by the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra under Oksana Lyniv.

Not the usual version I’ve known backwards (almost) since music O-level, but an 1834 rewrite by the composer which I’ve never heard before (although Gardiner apparently recorded it with the VPO). The first movement is more or less unaltered, but the last three have surprising and quite marked melodic changes.

My first reaction was that the changes were not improvements, losing some of the music’s individuality in favour of something more prosaic.

That this wasn’t just the result of familiarity with the original version is suggested by Edward Greenfield’s comment on the revisions:

Surprisingly for so perceptive a composer he undermined the original's freshness, smoothing over melodic lines and extending linking passages. A fascinating comment on the danger of second thoughts after white-hot inspiration.

Thank you for this. I missed the preamble and so was rather puzzled by what I was hearing - I thought that some of the 'hiccups'(which is what it felt like) were to do with the orchestra's playing, but it would seem they were the composer's fault!

[cloughie]

Rattle’s BavRSO Mother Goose yesterday was beautifully played.