Beethoven Piano Concerto No3 as you have never heard it!

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  • DracoM
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    • Mar 2007
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    Beethoven Piano Concerto No3 as you have never heard it!



    Total knockout!!!
  • jayne lee wilson
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    • Jul 2011
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    #2
    Beautifully done.......

    This sextet arrangement was made of No.4 (but without a second piano...); not sure if any of the other concertos were so arranged...


    I think you should hear Cristofori and Arthur Schoonderwoerd, D.....

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    • DracoM
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      • Mar 2007
      • 13024

      #3
      Yeah, but ....come on.....wasn't interested in scholarship,..........just enjoy it as it stands! A family of great talent working through an exciting way of hearing a piece of Beethoven we VERY rarely hear in such contexts - well IMO - and all the more exciting for that.

      Blimey.....wish I hadn't posted it now.
      Last edited by DracoM; 22-04-20, 21:59.

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        Very enjoyable, the string playing as much as the pianists.

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
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          #5
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Beautifully done.......

          This sextet arrangement was made of No.4 (but without a second piano...); not sure if any of the other concertos were so arranged...


          I think you should hear Cristofori and Arthur Schoonderwoerd, D.....
          But the Schoonderwoerd is not a reduction. The orchestral complement is based on what Beethoven had available for the first performance, given the dimensions of the venue.

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          • jayne lee wilson
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            • Jul 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            But the Schoonderwoerd is not a reduction. The orchestral complement is based on what Beethoven had available for the first performance, given the dimensions of the venue.
            Well exactly...never suggested it was......
            Cristofori are based on the Esterhazy Orchestra of the 1790s, "very similar to those of the Lobkowitz orchestra in Vienna a few years later"....as the notes say.

            Point is, one thing can lead to another....I'm just offering freely-associative crosslights, suggesting ways of listening, of venturing further......
            To spell it out - from the modern symphony orchestra to a contemporary chamber-reduced one, in Beethoven, could be a revelation or a shock; but from the chamber-reduced group to some of the originally-used forces..... maybe not such a great leap - easier to relate; but a very enjoyable & exciting one, if you didn't try it yet; perhaps an entry point. Who knows where it may lead your ears?

            Not "scholarship" (second time we've had that one recently) but fresh, innovative performing and listening.... and "only connecting" all of it up... in the spirit of What Next, if you like, the Gramophone feature....
            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 22-04-20, 23:31.

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            • Bryn
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              • Mar 2007
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              #7
              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
              Well exactly...never suggested it was......
              Cristofori are based on the Esterhazy Orchestra of the 1790s, "very similar to those of the Lobkowitz orchestra in Vienna a few years later"....as the notes say.

              Point is, one thing can lead to another....I'm just offering freely-associative crosslights, suggesting ways of listening, of venturing further......
              To spell it out - from the modern symphony orchestra to a contemporary chamber-reduced one, in Beethoven, could be a revelation or a shock; but from the chamber-reduced group to some of the originally-used forces..... maybe not such a great leap - easier to relate; but a very enjoyable & exciting one, if you didn't try it yet; perhaps an entry point. Who knows where it may lead your ears?

              Not "scholarship" (second time we've had that one recently) but fresh, innovative performing and listening.... and "only connecting" all of it up... in the spirit of What Next, if you like, the Gramophone feature....
              Just my attempt at clarification, following your reference to the sextet arrangement of the G major concerto.

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