Vienna Philharmonic New Year's Concert 2020

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  • Andrew
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    • Jan 2020
    • 148

    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    No delays at Stonehenge I hope!
    No, strangely not-for once! We sailed all the way from Devon to Hertfordshire sans incident
    Major Denis Bloodnok, Indian Army (RTD) Coward and Bar, currently residing in Barnet, Hertfordshire!

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    • kernelbogey
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 5867

      Cross to have missed this, for the first time in decades, through being away.... and, frankly, simply forgetting!

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      • akiralx
        Full Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 431

        Sadly for the second successive year it has not been shown on Australian TV, especially sad when owing to the time difference it is live in the evening - much more civilsed!

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        • kernelbogey
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5867

          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
          Cross to have missed this, for the first time in decades, through being away.... and, frankly, simply forgetting!
          I assume it is available on ZOUNDZ! until 31 January or thereabouts.

          Is it still available anywhere to see on catchup tv?

          Recommendtions? I would love to hear Austrian Radio's radio broadcast....

          (PS the dance gets a here every year, I believe,)

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
            Is it still available anywhere to see on catchup tv?


            ... for the next 23 days.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • greenilex
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1626

              Just watched the highlights. My late mother used to watch every year as a way of maintaining contact with her brother, who still lived in Vienna (her four older brothers fought on opposite sides in WW2). The conductor this year was perfect.

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              • bluestateprommer
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3033

                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                I would love to hear Austrian Radio's radio broadcast....
                One interesting point about the intermission interview, between Sebastian Fleischer and Andris Nelsons, is that once past the intro and Nelsons giving a quick greetings back to SF in German, the interview was in English. So you have an Austrian radio announcer and a Latvian conductor conversing in English, with German translation superimposed over their voices. This was also where, as I'd wondered earlier, the mention of Mariss Jansons happened. Petroc had also mentioned Jansons briefly in his commentary. Likewise, Petroc got the count correct of women in the orchestra for the concert, 7.

                Because I was slow in catching the video, or at least bits of it, I didn't realize until after everyone else here that Nelsons himself took the trumpet solo in the Lumbye selection. The US announcer didn't say a word, that I remembered. Petroc obviously didn't have to mention it, as his audio commentary was for both the R3 relay and the TV relay.

                Maybe not a VPO New Year's Concert for the ages, but very enjoyable still, and never having seen Nelsons live, or anything in the way of video, I did get a sense of why so many orchestras like Nelsons, given his friendly personality. (He does perhaps need to watch his weight, though.)

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6499

                  Saddo that I am, got both the DVD and CD of this concert

                  What do you make of the choice of Muti 2021 BSP?

                  Maybe Jansons booked? Somehow it didn’t seem Muti’s turn.

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11954

                    When back from maternity leave they should get Mirga in - a Pizzicato Polka the CBSO played as an encore at a concert of hers in 2018 was one of the finest Strauss performances I have ever heard.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18084

                      Originally posted by Alison View Post
                      Saddo that I am, got both the DVD and CD of this concert

                      What do you make of the choice of Muti 2021 BSP?

                      Maybe Jansons booked? Somehow it didn’t seem Muti’s turn.
                      I don't think Jansons is available. Sadly.

                      Conductor renowned for performances of Mahler, Strauss and the Russian romantics with the world’s great orchestras

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                      • bluestateprommer
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3033

                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        What do you make of the choice of Muti 2021 BSP?

                        Maybe Jansons booked? Somehow it didn’t seem Muti’s turn.
                        While I know that you're not a Muti fan at all when it comes to the VPO New Year's concert, I don't have any particular worries about the choice of Muti here, for 2021 (assuming that all is well by then). He himself has stated, in this feature that I've posted elsewhere (i.e. for the 2018 thread), about first being invited for the 1993 concert, even if there is a bit of "shtick" about this statement, kind of in line with his personality:

                        "When I was first asked to do the New Year’s concert, for several weeks I said 'no' and refused to accept because I thought this concert should be conducted by conductors who have the music of the Strauss family or Lanner or Suppé in their blood. I asked, 'Why should a Neapolitan be on the podium in the Musikverein on the first of January? I am from Napoli, I am not from Vienna.'"
                        Clearly, Muti is smart enough to know how good an opportunity this was, and is, over the years. Plus, he has a long history of conducting the VPO, probably longer than any conductor active now, with Haitink retired (and strictly chronologically speaking, Muti first conducted the VPO (in 1971, at the Salzburg Festival) before Haitink (1972 at the Musikverein). Muti evidently knows the VPO's ways, and vice versa, so that they presumably get along with each other just fine. As well, Muti is 79 this year, so no doubt he wants to enjoy the opportunities while he can.

                        I haven't the faintest idea if Jansons was booked for 2021. His last concert with the VPO was in June 2019 at the Elbphilharmonie, not long before he had cancelled his summer dates (including the BRSO Proms dates). I'm sure that the VPO would have loved to get him back at some point, but he might well have started looking the worse for wear even by then. I saw Jansons' final Berlin PO concert in the Digital Concert Hall, dating from a few months earlier in 2019, and in hindsight, the signs of his final phase were starting to kick in even then. By the time of his October 2019 final concerts in NYC, from the photos that I saw, he looked pretty ghastly, and by all accounts, barely got through that 1st NYC concert before having to pull out of the 2nd Carnegie concert. In other words, as much as the VPO may have wanted him back for the New Year's concert down the line, they saw the writing on the wall.

                        For Barbirollians' comment on MG-T: I think that she would be a terrific choice for the VPO, down the line. However, this is a case of her having to walk before running, so to speak, because MG-T has never conducted the VPO, from a look at the VPO's concert archive. Intuitively, I think that the VPO has her in mind for a future date in a regular concert, on the basis of her reputation and status. I did hear a while back that MG-T had been booked for something like 5 years ahead in general, which was admittedly before her 1st pregnancy, and now her 2nd pregnancy and her COVID-19 situation. Even without all these complications, if it does happen that MG-T one day gets the VPO's New Year's concert, it won't be for a good long while, IMHO.

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                        • LHC
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1579

                          Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                          While I know that you're not a Muti fan at all when it comes to the VPO New Year's concert, I don't have any particular worries about the choice of Muti here, for 2021 (assuming that all is well by then). He himself has stated, in this feature that I've posted elsewhere (i.e. for the 2018 thread), about first being invited for the 1993 concert, even if there is a bit of "shtick" about this statement, kind of in line with his personality:



                          Clearly, Muti is smart enough to know how good an opportunity this was, and is, over the years. Plus, he has a long history of conducting the VPO, probably longer than any conductor active now, with Haitink retired (and strictly chronologically speaking, Muti first conducted the VPO (in 1971, at the Salzburg Festival) before Haitink (1972 at the Musikverein). Muti evidently knows the VPO's ways, and vice versa, so that they presumably get along with each other just fine. As well, Muti is 79 this year, so no doubt he wants to enjoy the opportunities while he can.

                          I haven't the faintest idea if Jansons was booked for 2021. His last concert with the VPO was in June 2019 at the Elbphilharmonie, not long before he had cancelled his summer dates (including the BRSO Proms dates). I'm sure that the VPO would have loved to get him back at some point, but he might well have started looking the worse for wear even by then. I saw Jansons' final Berlin PO concert in the Digital Concert Hall, dating from a few months earlier in 2019, and in hindsight, the signs of his final phase were starting to kick in even then. By the time of his October 2019 final concerts in NYC, from the photos that I saw, he looked pretty ghastly, and by all accounts, barely got through that 1st NYC concert before having to pull out of the 2nd Carnegie concert. In other words, as much as the VPO may have wanted him back for the New Year's concert down the line, they saw the writing on the wall.

                          For Barbirollians' comment on MG-T: I think that she would be a terrific choice for the VPO, down the line. However, this is a case of her having to walk before running, so to speak, because MG-T has never conducted the VPO, from a look at the VPO's concert archive. Intuitively, I think that the VPO has her in mind for a future date in a regular concert, on the basis of her reputation and status. I did hear a while back that MG-T had been booked for something like 5 years ahead in general, which was admittedly before her 1st pregnancy, and now her 2nd pregnancy and her COVID-19 situation. Even without all these complications, if it does happen that MG-T one day gets the VPO's New Year's concert, it won't be for a good long while, IMHO.
                          It’s worth remembering wrt speculating about Jansons, that the New Years Concert is performed three times in three days (30, 31 and 1) and is therefore a significant physical commitment. Even if he was still with us, I suspect this might have been too much for Jansons.
                          "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                          Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11954

                            Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                            While I know that you're not a Muti fan at all when it comes to the VPO New Year's concert, I don't have any particular worries about the choice of Muti here, for 2021 (assuming that all is well by then). He himself has stated, in this feature that I've posted elsewhere (i.e. for the 2018 thread), about first being invited for the 1993 concert, even if there is a bit of "shtick" about this statement, kind of in line with his personality:



                            Clearly, Muti is smart enough to know how good an opportunity this was, and is, over the years. Plus, he has a long history of conducting the VPO, probably longer than any conductor active now, with Haitink retired (and strictly chronologically speaking, Muti first conducted the VPO (in 1971, at the Salzburg Festival) before Haitink (1972 at the Musikverein). Muti evidently knows the VPO's ways, and vice versa, so that they presumably get along with each other just fine. As well, Muti is 79 this year, so no doubt he wants to enjoy the opportunities while he can.

                            I haven't the faintest idea if Jansons was booked for 2021. His last concert with the VPO was in June 2019 at the Elbphilharmonie, not long before he had cancelled his summer dates (including the BRSO Proms dates). I'm sure that the VPO would have loved to get him back at some point, but he might well have started looking the worse for wear even by then. I saw Jansons' final Berlin PO concert in the Digital Concert Hall, dating from a few months earlier in 2019, and in hindsight, the signs of his final phase were starting to kick in even then. By the time of his October 2019 final concerts in NYC, from the photos that I saw, he looked pretty ghastly, and by all accounts, barely got through that 1st NYC concert before having to pull out of the 2nd Carnegie concert. In other words, as much as the VPO may have wanted him back for the New Year's concert down the line, they saw the writing on the wall.

                            For Barbirollians' comment on MG-T: I think that she would be a terrific choice for the VPO, down the line. However, this is a case of her having to walk before running, so to speak, because MG-T has never conducted the VPO, from a look at the VPO's concert archive. Intuitively, I think that the VPO has her in mind for a future date in a regular concert, on the basis of her reputation and status. I did hear a while back that MG-T had been booked for something like 5 years ahead in general, which was admittedly before her 1st pregnancy, and now her 2nd pregnancy and her COVID-19 situation. Even without all these complications, if it does happen that MG-T one day gets the VPO's New Year's concert, it won't be for a good long while, IMHO.
                            Has MGT been diagnosed with Covid 19 ? All the best to her if so .

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                            • LHC
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1579

                              Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                              Has MGT been diagnosed with Covid 19 ? All the best to her if so .
                              Yes, the CBSO confirmed her diagnosis on 16 March. As that was nearly a month ago I would hope she has fully recovered by now.
                              "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                              Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                Oh no! I hope she’ll recover very soon!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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