Finzi cello concert - In Concert 2.2.18

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  • Alison
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6468

    #16
    Must say I was delighted to hear the concerto again.

    Not for the first time I found Paul Watkins almost tried too hard and couldn’t quite get hold of the piece.

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    • EdgeleyRob
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12180

      #17
      Originally posted by antongould View Post
      Totally agree Historian
      Me too

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11751

        #18
        Originally posted by Alison View Post
        Must say I was delighted to hear the concerto again.

        Not for the first time I found Paul Watkins almost tried too hard and couldn’t quite get hold of the piece.
        I have the old Raphael Wallfischvrecordung from way back in 1986 - very full blooded romantic account .

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #19
          Originally posted by Historian View Post
          That's one of the joys of music; we each have those composers whose music is essential (is that the word?), and those whose music 'pleasant but inessential' to quote Conchis. To me Finzi is essential and therefore I must admit a bias in his favour. However I think that you are on to something ahinton, that the Cello Concerto may have marked a new departure; alas we shall never know. Similar to Holst, perhaps, whose (relatively) early death deprived of us some interesting works.

          BBM, Chandos already have the Raphael Wallfisch/Bryden Thomson recording, although that's getting on a bit now I suppose. I would be very happy to hear Paul Watkins on CD. Like the suggestion of the Eclogue as a coupling.
          Ah yes. I forgot about that recording. I think it’s time for another from this company.

          Thanks for my suggestion as a coupling. Piers Lane or Howard Shelley, would be good in the Eclogue.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Historian
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            • Aug 2012
            • 648

            #20
            Barbirollians reminded me that the Chandos recording dates from 1986, BBM, so I agree that it may well be time for another. Good choice of potential soloists for the Eclogue as well.

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            • Pabmusic
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              • May 2011
              • 5537

              #21
              Originally posted by Historian View Post
              Barbirollians reminded me that the Chandos recording dates from 1986, BBM, so I agree that it may well be time for another. Good choice of potential soloists for the Eclogue as well.
              How about the reconstructed Violin Concerto as a couplng?

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              • Pabmusic
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                • May 2011
                • 5537

                #22
                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                How about the reconstructed Violin Concerto as a couplng?
                Silly me! Chandos already. How about Dutton?

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                • Pabmusic
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                  • May 2011
                  • 5537

                  #23
                  If the Eclogue is seriously under consideration as a coupling, then the Grand Fantasia & Toccata must be included, since it (they?) formed the last movement(s) of the piano concerto, of which the Eclogue was the slow mvt.

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                  • Historian
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                    • Aug 2012
                    • 648

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                    If the Eclogue is seriously under consideration as a coupling, then the Grand Fantasia & Toccata must be included, since it (they?) formed the last movement(s) of the piano concerto, of which the Eclogue was the slow mvt.
                    That would make a lot of sense Pabs, thank you. Let's hope someone from Dutton (other excellent music labels are available) reads this thread...

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                    • LMcD
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                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8636

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      If the Eclogue is seriously under consideration as a coupling, then the Grand Fantasia & Toccata must be included, since it (they?) formed the last movement(s) of the piano concerto, of which the Eclogue was the slow mvt.
                      As it happens, the Tim Hugh Naxos recording comprises the Cello Concerto, the Grand Fantasia and the Eclogue.

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                      • Maclintick
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                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1083

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        Oh dear. Without Finzi there would be a Finzi-shaped hole in 20th century music! Admittedly he filled the hole many times in a similar way, but there are some works I would hate to be without; probably obvious ones. Dies Natalis, The 5 Bagatelles for Clarinet, Lo the Full Final Sacrifice are just a few. And he had a real gift for writing songs; a master of word setting.
                        The Hardy settings, "Earth, Air & Rain", "By Footpath & Stile" et al, suit the Finziesque (? Finzian ? Finzoid ?) mode of reflective English melancholy perfectly -- accounts by Roddy Williams & Ian Burnside on Naxos are essential for anyone who loves this music, as is, of course, the Wilfred Brown "Dies Natalis". Just heard the cello concerto on I-PLayer & will have to give it another go...Is the Yo-Yo/Tod version the one to investigate ?

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                        • EdgeleyRob
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12180

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Maclintick View Post
                          The Hardy settings, "Earth, Air & Rain", "By Footpath & Stile" et al, suit the Finziesque (? Finzian ? Finzoid ?) mode of reflective English melancholy perfectly -- accounts by Roddy Williams & Ian Burnside on Naxos are essential for anyone who loves this music, as is, of course, the Wilfred Brown "Dies Natalis". Just heard the cello concerto on I-PLayer & will have to give it another go...Is the Yo-Yo/Tod version the one to investigate ?


                          Yes,IMVHO the performance transcends the slightly distant recording of the the soloist.

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                            If the Eclogue is seriously under consideration as a coupling, then the Grand Fantasia & Toccata must be included, since it (they?) formed the last movement(s) of the piano concerto, of which the Eclogue was the slow mvt.
                            Thank you Pabs. I hadn’t thought of that work. A must do coupling for a must do recording!
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11751

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              Ah yes. I forgot about that recording. I think it’s time for another from this company.

                              Thanks for my suggestion as a coupling. Piers Lane or Howard Shelley, would be good in the Eclogue.
                              Piers Lane has already recorded Eclogue with Tod Handley in EMI Eminence later transferred to Classics for Pleasure coupled with Delius and RVW Piano Concertos.

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                              • Maclintick
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                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1083

                                #30
                                Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
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                                Yes,IMVHO the performance transcends the slightly distant recording of the the soloist.
                                Many thanks, Rob.

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