BBC 4 announces classical music season

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  • french frank
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    • Feb 2007
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    #16
    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
    so Josef Pasternack's recording of the "Hallelujah Chorus" from 1918, but not (necessarily) Kark's 1910 recording of Beethoven #5.
    Yes, and I think it's connected with the BBC's Year of History : BBC announces landmark Year of History to mark 1918 centenaries.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Lat-Literal
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      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      I understood "[t]he greatest performances" to refer to historical recordings of works from across the repertory - so Josef Pasternack's recording of the "Hallelujah Chorus" from 1918, but not (necessarily) Kark's 1910 recording of Beethoven #5.
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      Yes, and I think it's connected with the BBC's Year of History : BBC announces landmark Year of History to mark 1918 centenaries.
      Oh.

      (I assume that they won't be celebrating the birth in 1918 of George Rochberg then - we will probably get more of Bernstein in various places but we would have done anyway)

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        CBSO 'led by Mark Wigglesworth' - I thought he was a conductor? Or is this another example of the revised terminology that sees concerts becoming gigs and violinists fiddlers?
        My mate in the Philharmonia always describes what he plays as a fiddle and what he does as gigs... can't see the problem myself.

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        • french frank
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          • Feb 2007
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          #19
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          My mate in the Philharmonia always describes what he plays as a fiddle and what he does as gigs... can't see the problem myself.
          Depends on motives. With some people it is, and seems, natural, with others it is, and seems, calculated. Chosen for effect.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Depends on motives. With some people it is, and seems, natural, with others it is, and seems, calculated. Chosen for effect.
            Whereas some people are just... on the fiddle.

            (My coat, waiter!)

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            • jonfan
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              • Dec 2010
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              #21
              This looks like a good initiative with joined up events across BBC Four and Radio 3. It goes well into 2019 as well so not time limited. I hope plenty of new material can be created, especially on BBC Four which exists on repeats for most of the time.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                Depends on motives. With some people it is, and seems, natural, with others it is, and seems, calculated. Chosen for effect.
                Probably
                but don't all musicians call "concerts" gigs?

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                • DracoM
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #23
                  Most of the musicians I mix with certainly do.

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                  • french frank
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                    • Feb 2007
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                    Most of the musicians I mix with certainly do.
                    Exactly. It's common jargon among musicians. But the BBC addressing listeners doesn't have to speak in other people's jargon. Most people have some sort of jargon specific to interests or work. Using that jargon when speaking to other peple can seem like an affectation (and in my view often is).
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #25
                      Anyone here fancy a new job?

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                      • french frank
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30245

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Anyone here fancy a new job?
                        Crumbs: 'You will have a passion for television coverage of classical music, a well-informed knowledge of the classical music domain, its repertoire and artists, coupled with a lively, intelligent interest the wider cultural world."

                        Sounds like the kind of person for Radio 3 could be after …
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • oddoneout
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                          • Nov 2015
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Crumbs: 'You will have a passion for television coverage of classical music, a well-informed knowledge of the classical music domain, its repertoire and artists, coupled with a lively, intelligent interest the wider cultural world."

                          Sounds like the kind of person for Radio 3 could be after …
                          Especially this......?
                          "You will have a flair for researching interesting and accurate scripts, based on solid music research,[ to engage a broad audience.]"

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #28
                            I wonder when the BBC suddenly decided to have such impossible expectations of its staff....

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                            • Stanfordian
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              I wonder when the BBC suddenly decided to have such impossible expectations of its staff....

                              Hiya Serial_Apologist,

                              Well, in the new Radio Times Kirsty Young tells us that she swots at home for her radio programme 'Desert Island Discs' together with having other information "provided by the brilliant 'Desert Island Discs' research team." In view of such diligence maybe R3 should sign up Kirsty and her team. I'm not sure if she knows anything about classical music but with all this dumbing down I'm not sure if it matters anymore.

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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37592

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                                Hiya Serial_Apologist,

                                Well, in the new Radio Times Kirsty Young tells us that she swots at home for her radio programme 'Desert Island Discs' together with having other information "provided by the brilliant 'Desert Island Discs' research team." In view of such diligence maybe R3 should sign up Kirsty and her team. I'm not sure if she knows anything about classical music but with all this dumbing down I'm not sure if it matters anymore.
                                I've always liked Kirsty Young - better, probably, than any other presenter/host on the broadcasting media: her quietly unassuming, unpratronizing yet at the same time unobsequious manner with guests and interviewees, ever since she did Ch4 news. She actually listens rather than imposing her own viewpoint, as do most nowadays, while pretending to impartiality. And she never seems to age - just like me! or maybe that's the onset of my second childhood. (Onset?? - I hear everyone cry).

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