Vienna Philharmonic New Year's Concert 2018

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  • Darkbloom
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    • Feb 2015
    • 706

    #91
    Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
    Happy birthday Alpensymphonie and many HIPPy returns!

    I listened to the concert on the radio, and didn't like it as much as last year's. The familiar pieces were as they always are and the unfamiliar ones didn't really yield any new discoveries.

    Something that irritated me whenever PT started talking though was his total lack of effort towards anything resembling German pronunciation (including of course the last name of the principal composers). Does he think he's still at Classic FM?
    I'm no great PT fan but 'Strauss' is almost always given in the anglicised pronunciation. Just as only a minority get Wagner's first name correct too. It's almost an unwritten rule that that's the way it's done, out of laziness probably.

    I've read on here that PT is an amiable cove in person and I wish I liked him more, but he has just about the most irritating manner of anyone I have ever heard on the radio.

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    • Petrushka
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12242

      #92
      Originally posted by Alison View Post
      Did you know the Suppe, Pet?

      Didn’t recognise the timpanist and felt he could have been more assertive.
      Yes, the Suppe is on a Boskovsky/Johann Strauss Orchestra LP I bought way back in 1973! That same recording is on CD https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waltzes-Mar...ords=boskovsky
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6455

        #93
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
        Yes, the Suppe is on a Boskovsky/Johann Strauss Orchestra LP I bought way back in 1973! That same recording is on CD https://www.amazon.co.uk/Waltzes-Mar...ords=boskovsky
        Cheers Pet

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        • Alison
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          • Nov 2010
          • 6455

          #94
          Hadn’t realised the Thielemann LvB cycle was the industry standard! Even so I will be open minded for next year.

          More interesting than another Jansons or Barenboim.

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          • pastoralguy
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7746

            #95
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Hadn’t realised the Thielemann LvB cycle was the industry standard! Even so I will be open minded for next year.
            Believe me, Alison - it's not! I found it in a cd sale for a fiver a month after it was released!

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12242

              #96
              Sorry but I just don't get the problem people have with Petroc. There was nothing risible about his pronunciation, He imparted a good deal of information between items and didn't make the mistake of being caught talking over the music. A solid professional job in my view. At least we weren't lumbered with KD.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Richard Tarleton

                #97
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                it's reassuring to see him looking on such good form
                I'd like to make special mention of his hair - which flops forward, like spaniel ears, when he dips his head, and flies back when he tosses it.....it's the centre parting, cut just short enough not to actually get in his eyes. How he lives with it, I have no idea, but I suppose it's his trademark.

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                • Alison
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6455

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  Sorry but I just don't get the problem people have with Petroc. There was nothing risible about his pronunciation, He imparted a good deal of information between items and didn't make the mistake of being caught talking over the music. A solid professional job in my view. At least we weren't lumbered with KD.
                  Don’t suppose forumites would want back Brian Kay either!

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                  • Richard Barrett
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                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
                    'Strauss' is almost always given in the anglicised pronunciation. Just as only a minority get Wagner's first name correct too. It's almost an unwritten rule that that's the way it's done, out of laziness probably.
                    Exactly.

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                    • Pianorak
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3127

                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      A solid professional job in my view. At least we weren't lumbered with KD.
                      My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12242

                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post

                        Seemed a short first half this year .
                        The first half has always been some 35 minutes in length, certainly since I first started listening in 1972, and today it was indeed just a notch over 35 minutes so nothing short measure about it.

                        Not a massive Thielemann fan myself after a couple of lacklustre Proms with his Dresden band in 2016 but the orchestra want him to do it so...
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6761

                          Originally posted by zola View Post
                          Interesting that the interval feature on TV celebrated 100 years of modernism in Vienna. Architecture ? Check. Painting ? Check. Design ? Check. Music ? I think you can guess the answer.
                          Having listened to the R3 interval feature some Schoenberg would have been historically accurate as well as just and fitting. Perhaps one of his Strauss arrangements.....? Though I dread to think what mis-en-scene the cliché loving director would have come up with.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20570

                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            Sorry but I just don't get the problem people have with Petroc. There was nothing risible about his pronunciation, He imparted a good deal of information between items and didn't make the mistake of being caught talking over the music. A solid professional job in my view. At least we weren't lumbered with KD.
                            Well Muti isn't French. There are only 5 vowel sounds in Italian and Petroc got both of them wrong.

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                            • richardfinegold
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                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7659

                              Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
                              I'm no great PT fan but 'Strauss' is almost always given in the anglicised pronunciation. Just as only a minority get Wagner's first name correct too. It's almost an unwritten rule that that's the way it's done, out of laziness probably.

                              I've read on here that PT is an amiable cove in person and I wish I liked him more, but he has just about the most irritating manner of anyone I have ever heard on the radio.
                              My wife’s car won’t start it’s 6 degrees below Fahrenheit. I just returned from working on it in the garage and attempting a thaw before I try my luck again.
                              We had an aging Sony boombox in the garage that miraculously works and the first half kept me thinking I was warm and toasty. A little Strauss usually goes a long way with me but today I enjoyed it immensely.
                              Perhaps if I connect the fuel line to the boombox all my problems will be solved...

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                              • kernelbogey
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5738

                                Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                                My wife’s car won’t start it’s 6 degrees below Fahrenheit. I just returned from working on it in the garage and attempting a thaw before I try my luck again.
                                We had an aging Sony boombox in the garage that miraculously works and the first half kept me thinking I was warm and toasty. A little Strauss usually goes a long way with me but today I enjoyed it immensely.
                                Perhaps if I connect the fuel line to the boombox all my problems will be solved...
                                I think you needed Perpetuum Mobile to be played!

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