The Art of Fugue Mahan Esfahani and the Academy of Ancient Music: Thursday 21 Decembe

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  • doversoul1
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    The Art of Fugue Mahan Esfahani and the Academy of Ancient Music: Thursday 21 Decembe

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    Harpsichordist Mahan Esfahani joins the Academy of Ancient Music to perform Bach's Art of Fugue in a new instrumental arrangement by Esfahani himself. In doing so he revives the informal spirit of Bach's Leipzig coffee house concerts, in which the composer would direct his own band of musicians.
    […]
    This concert is a repeat of a Proms Saturday Matinee from July 2012.


    It will be good to hear this again but has it already been five years?!
  • Pulcinella
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    • Feb 2014
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    #2
    Issued as a BBC MM cover CD: Volume 25, Number 2.

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    • Richard Tarleton

      #3
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      Issued as a BBC MM cover CD: Volume 25, Number 2.
      I didn't understand his ordering/numbering - Contrapunctus 14 played half way through, timed at 3.38....can anyone help? There are almost no notes.

      Fortunately I have 3 other performances.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        I never warmed to Esfahani's Goldberg, The Aria especially was rather slow.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • pastoralguy
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          #5
          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
          I never warmed to Esfahani's Goldberg, The Aria especially was rather slow.
          And it was played on the harpsichord. ..

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          • Tony Halstead
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
            And it was played on the harpsichord. ..
            Err...am I missing something here...? Isn't it supposed to be played on the harpsichord?
            Having asked that, another question to be asked is, why did he use a harpsichord that seems not to allow 'synchronicity' between the hands?
            We are well aware that many 19th century pianos seem to have this unfortunate disability when playing e.g. Chopin, Schumann and Liszt, but it's surprising to find an 18th century harpsichord that is apparently synchronistically faulty!

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              #7
              Originally posted by Tony View Post
              Err...am I missing something here...?
              Bach didn't specify instrumentation, the work remaining unfinished at his death. Different solutions have been offered, the 2 harpsichord option being particularly favoured.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                #8
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Bach didn't specify instrumentation, the work remaining unfinished at his death. Different solutions have been offered, the 2 harpsichord option being particularly favoured.
                We're getting a bit confused here, Alpie - Bbm referred to Esfahani's Goldberg recording, rather than the AoF.
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                • BBMmk2
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  We're getting a bit confused here, Alpie - Bbm referred to Esfahani's Goldberg recording, rather than the AoF.
                  Wel, as with a lot of JSB's works, they transfer well to other instruments, like the piano, indeed the modern piano, as in the hands of Sir Andras Schiff and Murray Perhahia, for example?
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Wel, as with a lot of JSB's works, they transfer well to other instruments, like the piano, indeed the modern piano, as in the hands of Sir Andras Schiff and Murray Perhahia, for example?
                    Now I'm getting a bit confused here, Bbm - by "they" are you still talking about the "Goldbergs" (and Esfahani's performance of them), or "Art of Fugue", or Bach's (?keyboard?) Music in general?

                    (If the latter - yes, you're right: Bach sounds very good even on that most unmusical of instruments, the modern Grand Piano [if you like that sort of thing]. The most vigorous and uplifting performance of the "Badinerie" from the Second "Orchestral" Suite I've ever heard was given by a Steel Pan ensemble. But Bach knew how to write for the instruments he was familiar with, and, for me, they sound particularly "right" in all details when performed on these instruments. Of course - and to get us back to the Thread topic - as Alpie says, with BWV 1080, there are no specific details of instrumentation - so, bring on the Electric Guitars, Synthesisers, Saxophones, and Steel Pans! )
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      We're getting a bit confused here, Alpie - Bbm referred to Esfahani's Goldberg recording, rather than the AoF.

                      Oh!

                      Perhaps a touch OT though.

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                      • BBMmk2
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Now I'm getting a bit confused here, Bbm - by "they" are you still talking about the "Goldbergs" (and Esfahani's performance of them), or "Art of Fugue", or Bach's (?keyboard?) Music in general?

                        (If the latter - yes, you're right: Bach sounds very good even on that most unmusical of instruments, the modern Grand Piano [if you like that sort of thing]. The most vigorous and uplifting performance of the "Badinerie" from the Second "Orchestral" Suite I've ever heard was given by a Steel Pan ensemble. But Bach knew how to write for the instruments he was familiar with, and, for me, they sound particularly "right" in all details when performed on these instruments. Of course - and to get us back to the Thread topic - as Alpie says, with BWV 1080, there are no specific details of instrumentation - so, bring on the Electric Guitars, Synthesisers, Saxophones, and Steel Pans! )
                        Indeed I do mean that ferney!
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          Perhaps a touch OT though.
                          I hope you appreciate the deft modulation of my final sentence of #10, Alpie
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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Of course - and to get us back to the Thread topic - as Alpie says, with BWV 1080, there are no specific details of instrumentation - so, bring on the Electric Guitars, Synthesisers, Saxophones, and Steel Pans! )
                            It may surprise you to hear that I don't particularly like Bach on the piano. It sounds too laboured (if that's the right word) but I'd be interested to hear an orchestrated version of AoF. Didn't Munchinger do something think this?

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              I hope you appreciate the deft modulation of my final sentence of #10, Alpie

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