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  • JasonPalmer
    Full Member
    • Dec 2022
    • 826

    This evenings concert looks good but I fear I will be late to the party as on childcare duty.
    Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by JasonPalmer View Post
      This evenings concert looks good but I fear I will be late to the party as on childcare duty.
      That's what BBC sounds is for.

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      • JasonPalmer
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        • Dec 2022
        • 826

        Indeed but with all this good stuff on 3 you have to find the time, fortunately things have conspired to make me ready for the 730 kick off.
        Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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        • JasonPalmer
          Full Member
          • Dec 2022
          • 826

          Good stuff, nice addition by the presenter, I remember seeing Angela Hewitt at wigmore.

          Ludwig van Beethoven
          Cello Sonata in D major, Op.102`2 (1st mvt)
          Performer: Daniel Müller‐Schott. Performer: Angela Hewitt.
          BEETHOVEN: CELLO SONATA ETC: MULLER-SCHOTT/HEWITT. HYPERION. 8.
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          • JasonPalmer
            Full Member
            • Dec 2022
            • 826

            Tonight's concert looks good.

            Music somehow not of this world, but from somewhere else above" - Diaghilev's words on hearing Stravinsky's music for the 1928 ballet Apollo, hinting at the unearthly nature of his first collaboration with choreographer George Balanchine in which the god Apollo shares the stage with three muses. Classical clarity, shape and form characterise this music's spirit. By way of contrast, Angela Hewitt joins the BBC Philharmonic and Sir Andrew Davis as soloist in Mozart's A major Piano Concerto (K 488), true classicism but enjoying an exploration of colour, harmony and melody. We hear music by Stravinsky of a different, more vivacious style, in his orchestrations of piano duets composed for children, his First Suite, first performed only three years before Apollo. Three of its numbers are inspired by national folk dances, a Napolitana, an Española and a Balalaika. The dance-infused keyboard music of eighteenth century France, provided the inspiration for Ravel's "Le tombeau de Couperin" though while writing it, Ravel turned the work into a homage for friends killed in the First World War. Clarity of texture and expression shine through his tributes to friends lost and to music of an earlier age. The "apotheosis of the Viennese Waltz" ends the evening - that was Ravel's own description of "La Valse" - music during which the accepted cultured vision of this highly civilised dance is exploded in an obscene orgy reflecting the fall of the Hapsburg Empire.
            Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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            • JasonPalmer
              Full Member
              • Dec 2022
              • 826

              A marvellous introduction.....
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              • Beresford
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                • Apr 2012
                • 555

                Jason: When you use quotations in your posts, it would be helpful, to me at least, if you could say where they came from.

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 6779

                  Originally posted by Beresford View Post
                  Jason: When you use quotations in your posts, it would be helpful, to me at least, if you could say where they came from.
                  I think the blurb for last nights concert must have come from the BBC website . It was doing so well until the hyperbolic and tautological description of La Valse as an “obscene orgy “ . What would a non obscene orgy look like ?

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                  • JasonPalmer
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2022
                    • 826

                    I missed most of the concert as the wife wanted us to watch a telly program together, looks like lunchtime and afternoon concerts will be my focus in future.
                    Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9188

                      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                      I think the blurb for last nights concert must have come from the BBC website . It was doing so well until the hyperbolic and tautological description of La Valse as an “obscene orgy “ . What would a non obscene orgy look like ?
                      One to which the writer accepted an invitation and therefore approved of?

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                      • Ein Heldenleben
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 6779

                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        One to which the writer accepted an invitation and therefore approved of?
                        La Valse was never choreographed was it ? But at any stage did Diaghilev have an orgy in mind ?

                        Ravel on the work from Wiki

                        “While some discover an attempt at parody, indeed caricature, others categorically see a tragic allusion in it – the end of the Second Empire, the situation in Vienna after the war, etc... This dance may seem tragic, like any other emotion... pushed to the extreme. But one should only see in it what the music expresses: an ascending progression of sonority, to which the stage comes along to add light and movement."[2] He also commented, in 1922, that "It doesn't have anything to do with the present situation in Vienna, and it also doesn't have any symbolic meaning in that regard. In the course of La Valse, I did not envision a dance of death or a struggle between life and death. (The year of the choreographic setting, 1855, repudiates such an assumption.)"[3]

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                          La Valse was never choreographed was it ? But at any stage did Diaghilev have an orgy in mind ?

                          Ravel on the work from Wiki

                          “While some discover an attempt at parody, indeed caricature, others categorically see a tragic allusion in it – the end of the Second Empire, the situation in Vienna after the war, etc... This dance may seem tragic, like any other emotion... pushed to the extreme. But one should only see in it what the music expresses: an ascending progression of sonority, to which the stage comes along to add light and movement."[2] He also commented, in 1922, that "It doesn't have anything to do with the present situation in Vienna, and it also doesn't have any symbolic meaning in that regard. In the course of La Valse, I did not envision a dance of death or a struggle between life and death. (The year of the choreographic setting, 1855, repudiates such an assumption.)"[3]
                          Also from the same Wikipedia item:

                          The ballet was premiered in Antwerp in October 1926 by the Royal Flemish Opera Ballet, and there were later productions by the Ballets Ida Rubinstein in 1928 and 1931 with choreography by Bronislava Nijinska.[Deborah Mawer, The Ballets of Maurice Ravel: Creation and Interpretation (Ashgate, 2006), 157ff] The music was also used for ballets of the same title, one by George Balanchine, who had made dances for Diaghilev, in 1951 and the other by Frederick Ashton in 1958.

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
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                            • Apr 2014
                            • 6779

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            Also from the same Wikipedia item:
                            I think Diaghilev tried to and gave up because the musical work was a story in itself . It left dance nothing to add.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30283

                              Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                              I think Diaghilev tried to and gave up because the musical work was a story in itself . It left dance nothing to add.
                              In Roger Nichols' Ravel Remembered he reports Poulenc's description of Diaghilev's reaction when he first heard it, played for him by Ravel and Michelle Meyer: "Ravel, it's a masterpiece ... but it's not a ballet ... it's the portrait of a ballet ... the painting of a ballet." (Poulenc, Moi et mes amis)
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • JasonPalmer
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2022
                                • 826

                                A live concert tonight, perhaps the trick with three is just to tune into concerts you fancy ?
                                Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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