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  • Daniel
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    • Jun 2012
    • 418

    #16
    So far I've only heard the 1st and (a bit of) the 2nd movt of the Shostakovich, at this speed it struck me as seeming less autobiographical, less personal, but will listen to the whole performance. I must seek out the Maxim Shostakovich recordings which I don't know, though I believe the first isn't easy to find.

    I also heard some of the Denisov which recalled a little the sound world of Lutoslawski's Symphony No.3 for me. Quite interested from comments above to hear the Berg now.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
      I couldn't help thinking, rather poignantly, of the little chap at the end of Wozzeck, having a lullaby sung to him.
      ???

      The little chap has the lullaby sung to him in Act 1, scene 3. At the end of the opera, he sings ("hop-hop") to his hobby horse.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Pulcinella
        Host
        • Feb 2014
        • 11062

        #18
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        ???

        The little chap has the lullaby sung to him in Act 1, scene 3. At the end of the opera, he sings ("hop-hop") to his hobby horse.
        Of course he does, but I knew there was a lullaby in there somewhere!
        Can't recall though if it is in any way related to anything in the concerto or if I'm having a senior moment!


        Edit: What I meant rather clumsily was that it seemed the sort of song that the little chap who we see at the end of the opera deserved having sung to him!
        Last edited by Pulcinella; 26-02-17, 21:10. Reason: Trying to wriggle out of my mistake!

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #19
          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          I thought those comments etc particularly enlightening, and they certainly coloured her interpretation. ...
          Listening again now, I concur. It's all falling into place. Think this one is a 'keeper'.

          Re. the Shostakovich, surely it is only the first movement which is over-rushed. Too much detail indeed is lost there.

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          • DublinJimbo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1222

            #20
            Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
            I'm still trying to get to grips with Pat Kop's way with the Berg VC. She certainly made me listen to it in a different light to, say, Anne-Sophie Mutter but I'm not sure that I liked it very much. Am I being unfair or is there an element with her of being different for different's sake?
            That's precisely my problem with the bare-foot fiddler. Her Tchaikovsky VC with Theodor Currentzis has been much lauded, but I found it excruciatingly annoying. All the rushing forward and pulling back had me visualising a rather large flashing sign above her head with a 'look at me' message on it. And what's with this bare-foot affectation?

            If her Berg is anything like the Tcahikovsky, then I wish to have nothing to do with it.

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12308

              #21
              Originally posted by DublinJimbo View Post
              That's precisely my problem with the bare-foot fiddler. Her Tchaikovsky VC with Theodor Currentzis has been much lauded, but I found it excruciatingly annoying. All the rushing forward and pulling back had me visualising a rather large flashing sign above her head with a 'look at me' message on it. And what's with this bare-foot affectation?

              If her Berg is anything like the Tcahikovsky, then I wish to have nothing to do with it.
              I've not heard the Tchaikovsky disc but I do have Pat Kop's Bartok VC 2/Ligeti VC disc and it's excellent, a worthy award winner. I'd give the Berg a try as I found it most involving and it felt more 'right' to my ears than many another recording of the piece. Agree with Bryn that it is a 'keeper'. Mercifully. perhaps, you can't see any bare feet on the radio!
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26572

                #22
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                Re. the Shostakovich, surely it is only the first movement which is over-rushed. Too much detail indeed is lost there.
                But what about the introduction to the last movement string chord/percussion coda - don't you find the flute solo garbled at the chosen tempo?
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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