Inexplicably, what major works have you not seen in concert?

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  • Beef Oven!
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    • Sep 2013
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    Inexplicably, what major works have you not seen in concert?

    Me:

    Schubert 9

    The Gothic

    Bruckner 1

    Mozart 40

    Vivaldi 4 Seasons

    Vaughan Williams 1

    Wagner Ring, Mastersingers, Lohengrin

    Verdi Aida

    Shostakovich 15

    Hovhaness anything

    Et al
  • bluestateprommer
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3022

    #2
    I've heard most standard repertoire live at some point or other. Here are a very personal live concert gaps from relatively standard repertoire and not-quite-top-popularity tier:

    Barber: Cello Concerto
    LvB: Creatures of Prometheus (complete ballet)
    Britten: Violin Concerto, Piano Concerto
    Bruckner 1, 5
    Dvorak Syms 1-5
    Haydn: 93, 95, 97, 98, 99 (just from the "London" Symphonies, never mind virtually all the rest)
    Hindemith: all the concerti, Symphony in Eb
    Mahler: Kindertotenlieder
    Prokofiev 2, 3, 4, 6, 7
    Schubert 1, 6
    DSCH: Violin Concerto No. 2, Cello Concerto No. 2, Syms. 3, 12
    Sibelius 3, 6
    Josef Suk: Serenade for Strings
    RVW 3, 5, 7, 8
    Walton: the three concerti

    Operas: too many to mention, like....
    Mozart: Idomeneo, Clemenza di Tito
    Puccini: Trittico
    Verdi: Don Carlo
    Wagner: everything except Lohengrin & Meistersinger

    Chamber music (like opera, too many gaps here)
    Haydn: most of the string quartets
    DSCH: ditto

    Actually, I guess that it's not so inexplicable that I haven't seen the items on my list, precisely because they're not "top 100". On beefoven's list, however, some of those "top 100" items are a mystery. No mystery about why no Havergal Brian 1, given the sheer near-impossible scale. However, you did have your chance back in 2011 ;) . Heck, even I traipsed over the pond for that.
    Last edited by bluestateprommer; 08-02-17, 19:21. Reason: chamber music etc

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    • Petrushka
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      • Nov 2010
      • 12329

      #3
      In 40+ years of concert-going I've heard most of the standard repertoire at least once but some of them haven't appeared as often as all that. I've heard Beethoven 5 live only twice, Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra only once, Sibelius 2 only once. Bruckner 1 & 2 not at all. I've got no memory of hearing Mozart 40 live but surely must have done! Never heard Bolero live or Tchaikovsky 2 or Shostakovich 2, 3 or 12 (not surprisingly perhaps).

      The major one, however, is Dvorak's New World Symphony. Never heard it live unless memory is playing me false.
      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        #4
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        Me:

        Schubert 9

        The Gothic

        Bruckner 1

        Mozart 40

        Vivaldi 4 Seasons

        Vaughan Williams 1

        Wagner Ring, Mastersingers, Lohengrin

        Verdi Aida

        Shostakovich 15

        Hovhaness anything

        Et al
        I can understand the Gothic being on the list; after all, it's not as though it gets public performances every month, is it?!

        Never mind, you have at least heard Sorabji's Sixth Piano Symphony live and there have so far been precious few opportunities to do that!

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        • Beef Oven!
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          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #5
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          I can understand the Gothic being on the list; after all, it's not as though it gets public performances every month, is it?!

          Never mind, you have at least heard Sorabji's Sixth Piano Symphony live and there have so far been precious few opportunities to do that!
          Indeed. But the thing about The Gothic is that it was performed at the Proms in recent years, and I was out of the country.

          Sorabji’s 6th Piano concerto? In the UK, like you, I’m in a select group of no more than 29! Not sure what the world premiere gate was.

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12329

            #6
            Sometimes I'm more astonished at what I have heard rather than what I haven't. Three live Gothic performances, BeefO, for starters!
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Sometimes I'm more astonished at what I have heard rather than what I haven't. Three live Gothic performances, BeefO, for starters!
              OMG!! Three!!!???

              Details?

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #8
                I'm stumped by the word "inexplicably" in the Thread title. There's a lot of major works I've not heard in concert - but I can explain that because I've never seen them programmed! Or, there's Mahler #8 - I've seen it programmed twice in venues I've been near: in the RAH conducted by Colin Davis in 1985 (but I was moving my stuff from London to the South Coast, and that Sunday was the only day I could get the van) and last year in Leeds Town Hall (but that was conducted by David Hill - and frankly I'd rather not hear it than endure him at the helm).
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                • Petrushka
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  OMG!! Three!!!???

                  Details?
                  Yep, three!!! First off was a fully amateur performance in the Victoria Hall, Hanley, Stoke on Trent, May 21 1978. Second, the Albert Hall performance on May 25 1980, LSO/Ole Schmidt. Finally, of course, the 2011 Prom performance. Bryn can equal this as he attended the 1966 Boult.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • Beef Oven!
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                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I'm stumped by the word "inexplicably" in the Thread title. There's a lot of major works I've not heard in concert - but I can explain that because I've never seen them programmed! Or, there's Mahler #8 - I've seen it programmed twice in venues I've been near: in the RAH conducted by Colin Davis in 1985 (but I was moving my stuff from London to the South Coast, and that Sunday was the only day I could get the van) and last year in Leeds Town Hall (but that was conducted by David Hill - and frankly I'd rather not hear it than endure him at the helm).
                    Ok, I’ll help you. I’m a music nut. I saw Deep Purple in 1973 and Led Zeppelin in 1975 & 1979. The Stranglers at a School disco interval before they’d released anything. Doctor Feelgood on Canvey Island in 1974 and in Hammersmith 1975. Black Sabbath with Ozzy Osborne. Gunter Wand, Sinopoli, Boulez, The BPO, Claudio Abbado, etc. 6,000 classical CDs. But I’ve never been to a Mazart 40 or Vivaldi 4 seasons gig. How do you explain that?

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      Yep, three!!! First off was a fully amateur performance in the Victoria Hall, Hanley, Stoke on Trent, May 21 1978. Second, the Albert Hall performance on May 25 1980, LSO/Ole Schmidt. Finally, of course, the 2011 Prom performance. Bryn can equal this as he attended the 1966 Boult.
                      You lucky, lucky, lucky (enter Monty Python!).

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26575

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        "inexplicably"
                        The explanation here is clear, too - my own fecklessness - but I don't think I have ever heard a single Beethoven symphony in concert....

                        I'm aware this may well get me drummed out of the Forum!

                        .

                        Can't recall ever having heard a Mozart symphony live either, for that matter.

                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Ok, I’ll help you. I’m a music nut. I saw Deep Purple in 1973 and Led Zeppelin in 1975 & 1979. The Stranglers at a School disco interval before they’d released anything. Doctor Feelgood on Canvey Island in 1974 and in Hammersmith 1975. Black Sabbath with Ozzy Osborne. Gunter Wand, Sinopoli, Boulez, The BPO, Claudio Abbado, etc. 6,000 classical CDs. But I’ve never been to a Mazart 40 or Vivaldi 4 seasons gig. How do you explain that?
                          You were going to Deep Purple, Led Zepp, Stranglers, Doc Feelgood, & Black Sabbath when I was hearing Vivaldi and conducting Mozza 40 in concerts?

                          Mozza/Viv are in your future - the Rocksters can never been seen in their heyday again.
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                          • Bryn
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                            Sometimes I'm more astonished at what I have heard rather than what I haven't. Three live Gothic performances, BeefO, for starters!
                            ditto. Boult, Schmidt and Brabbins. All at the RAH.

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              ditto. Boult, Schmidt and Brabbins. All at the RAH.
                              You were at Boult 1966!!??

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