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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11759

    CBSO/Nelsons 12.1.17

    I bought what was about the last ticket in the upper circle in November . Busy as it was last night from my lofty perch I counted about 200 empty seats . I am not sure if that was because of the inclement weather or conservative members of the audience demanding their money back when Mozart's Symphony No 36 was replaced by the Maxwell Davies trumpet concerto with no less a soloist than Hakan Hardenburger .

    In whichever class the absentees fell more fool them . The Maxwell Davies Concerto should not scare any horses being a very accessible piece and heavens did they do it justice the wild whirling final Presto in particular .My immediate thought how much Maxwell Davies might have loved to have heard it in such a terrific performance conducted of course by a trumpeter .

    Then a Bruckner 4 to treasure - not only the playing , superb from all but especially from the viola section and woodwind but also an interpretation that in many ways played more to Bruckner's forebears than Wagner - a glorious Opening movement much the most Schubertian Bruckner I have ever heard . An account of the Andante to make your heart sing, a wonderfully characterised Scherzo and Trio and then a finale played for all its worth but also with terrific transparency leading to a breathtakingly well paced final crescendo .

    Magnificent all round and how not only the audience but also the orchestra showed their appreciation of their former music director as after three ovations in which he saluted the principals on the fourth the orchestra refused to rise and waved their bows clapped and some even stamped their feet .

    PS and his could I miss out some of the most beautiful horn playing I have ever heard from Elspeth Dutch !
    Last edited by Barbirollians; 14-01-17, 10:52.
  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #2
    Thanks for posting Barbs. I do hope they will record this sometime.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • kernelbogey
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      • Nov 2010
      • 5807

      #3
      I would like to go to Birmingham to hear this orchestra under their new (to me wonderful) music director Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla in Symphony Hall - which would be three firsts for me!

      The options appear to be two performances of Weinberg/Copland/Rachmaninov Sym 3 on 6 or 8 April; or Idomeneo in June. I'm not thrilled by the first option, and wonder if anyone knows if I have missed something? Or whether I should overcome my Rachmaninov prejudice...?

      It's a fair journey for me and may involve an overnight hotel too.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11759

        #4
        They are playing Beethoven with Mirga on 29 Jan and 2 Feb both afternoon concerts plus Haydn symphony no 31 and K 595 with Francesco Piemontesi .

        Lovely audience in Birmingham hushed at the end of both pieces and then applause no prat shouting bravo unlike at Bridgwater Hall last night the moment The Concerto for the Left Hand ended .

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
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          #5
          Nelsons is slated to record the Bruckner symphonies with the Gewandhaus orchestra for DG .

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          • kernelbogey
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            • Nov 2010
            • 5807

            #6
            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
            They are playing Beethoven with Mirga on 29 Jan and 2 Feb both afternoon concerts plus Haydn symphony no 31 and K 595 with Francesco Piemontesi
            Thank you Barbs. Mulling that... only Grand Tier seats for 29th now; t'other is a schools concert, it seems.

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            • Conchis
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              • Jun 2014
              • 2396

              #7
              I was also there and wasn't quite as impressed.

              The second movement dragged for me and the sense of momentum achieved in the opening was dissipated. I felt the performance never really recovered from this.

              The Maxwell Davies was excellent, though - I'm so pleased this was programmed instead of that hoary old Mozart symphony, even if the good burghers of Brum disapproved!

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              • bluestateprommer
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3022

                #8
                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                I would like to go to Birmingham to hear this orchestra under their new (to me wonderful) music director Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla in Symphony Hall - which would be three firsts for me!

                The options appear to be two performances of Weinberg/Copland/Rachmaninov Sym 3 on 6 or 8 April; or Idomeneo in June. I'm not thrilled by the first option, and wonder if anyone knows if I have missed something? Or whether I should overcome my Rachmaninov prejudice...?

                It's a fair journey for me and may involve an overnight hotel too.
                My own bias would be to go for the Weinberg/Copland/Rachmaninov program, as it looks an excellent, off-the-beaten-path program that more orchestras should be doing, to get away from the same old, same old works, especially for the rare opportunity to hear anything by Weinberg live. (I've heard the Copland and Rachmaninov live, FWIW.) IMHO, the Third is SR's finest symphony (and I can only hope that MG-T takes the 1st movement exposition repeat, but that's probably not going to happen), and outings of it are rare enough that it's worth hearing live when the chance arises. Likewise, Copland's Clarinet Concerto is a marvelous concerto (and one of the very few good things to say about my country at the moment). But it certainly is a matter of personal taste, to be sure. On the flip side of the choices, I've never heard Idomeneo live, so that is definitely worth a journey as well, for Mozart opera in concert, and to see what MG-T will bring to the table with her opera background from her Salzburg post. It sounds as though either way, you can't go wrong for quality, and there are no bad choices here. (It does look strange, though, to read that there will be "a 60 minute interval after Act II", which sounds a trifle bit much, unless that's a typo.)

                Of course, to program more unfamiliar works risks the box office, as Barbirollians noted with the programming of PMD's Trumpet Concerto last week. It would take someone like MG-T, given the honeymoon phase of the start of her CBSO tenure, to minimize loss of sales with programming offbeat works.
                Last edited by bluestateprommer; 16-01-17, 19:40.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11759

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                  I was also there and wasn't quite as impressed.

                  The second movement dragged for me and the sense of momentum achieved in the opening was dissipated. I felt the performance never really recovered from this.

                  The Maxwell Davies was excellent, though - I'm so pleased this was programmed instead of that hoary old Mozart symphony, even if the good burghers of Brum disapproved!
                  I loved the second movement.

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                  • kernelbogey
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Thanks, BSP, for thoughts, which have helped me towards a decision. Possibly two treks to Brum ahead of me!

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                    • Zucchini
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      PS and his could I miss out some of the most beautiful horn playing I have ever heard from Elspeth Dutch !
                      She is absolutely brilliant & I see that the Arts Desk & upmarket Birmingham Post reviewers felt the same as you (the former even has a photo of the little flower!).

                      I always keep my fingers crossed that she'll be leading the horns when I visit SH. The control and warmth of sound are fabulous.)
                      Last edited by Zucchini; 18-01-17, 14:06.

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                      • bluestateprommer
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3022

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                        Thanks, BSP, for thoughts, which have helped me towards a decision. Possibly two treks to Brum ahead of me!
                        Well, hopefully my opinion won't dent your finances and schedule too badly . I guess just for myself, if I were forced to choose only one, I would go for Idomeneo, again for the "gap filler" reason in my own personal concert-going experiences.

                        Speaking of the lady, MG-T is set to make her Carnegie Hall debut in May 2018 (barring the end of human civilization, which sadly isn't beyond the realm of possibility now, but I digress), with the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra and this program:

                        Friday, May 18, 2018

                        The MET Orchestra
                        Mirga Gražinytė-Tyla, Conductor
                        Anita Rachvelishvili, Mezzo-Soprano

                        Debussy: Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
                        Mussorgsky: Songs and Dances of Death (orch. Shostakovich)
                        Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4
                        Given her recent Tchaik 4's at Symphony Hall and the RAH, one wonders if she's using that work as a "calling card" when she guest-conducts. Also, this arrangement makes me wonder if she might be making a debut at the Metropolitan Opera main stage next season, since it would be very odd to conduct the Met Opera's orchestra at Carnegie Hall without having conducted a production in the house first. Once the Met announces its next season, guess we'll soon know.

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11759

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                          Well, hopefully my opinion won't dent your finances and schedule too badly . I guess just for myself, if I were forced to choose only one, I would go for Idomeneo, again for the "gap filler" reason in my own personal concert-going experiences.

                          Speaking of the lady, MG-T is set to make her Carnegie Hall debut in May 2018 (barring the end of human civilization, which sadly isn't beyond the realm of possibility now, but I digress), with the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra and this program:







                          Given her recent Tchaik 4's at Symphony Hall and the RAH, one wonders if she's using that work as a "calling card" when she guest-conducts. Also, this arrangement makes me wonder if she might be making a debut at the Metropolitan Opera main stage next season, since it would be very odd to conduct the Met Opera's orchestra at Carnegie Hall without having conducted a production in the house first. Once the Met announces its next season, guess we'll soon know.

                          I suspect the CIA may produce sooner rather than later the material that leads to the impeachment of President Trump .

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