New Year's Day Concert 2017 VPO/Dudamel

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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12382

    New Year's Day Concert 2017 VPO/Dudamel

    Programme for the 2017 New Year's Day Concert:

    Franz Lehár: Nechledil March from the Operetta Wiener Frauen
    Émile Waldteufel: Les Patineurs. Waltz, op. 183
    Johann Strauss (son): S' gibt nur a Kaiserstadt,s' gibt nur a Wien. Polka, op. 291
    Josef Strauss: Winterlust. Polka (schnell), op. 121
    Johann Strauss (son):Mephistos Höllenrufe. Waltz, op. 101
    Johann Strauss (son): So ängstlich sind wir nicht! Schnell-Polka, op. 413


    [interval]


    Franz von Suppé: Overture - Pique Dame
    Carl Michael Ziehrer: Hereinspaziert! Waltz op. 518
    Otto Nicolai: Mondaufgang from the opera 'Die lustigen Weiber von Windsor'
    Johann Strauß (son): Pepita-Polka, op. 138
    Johann Strauss (son): Rotunde-Quadrille, op. 360
    Johann Strauss (son): Die Extravaganten. Waltz, op. 205
    Johann Strass (father): Indianer-Galopp. op. 111
    Josef Strauss: Die Nasswalderin. Polka mazur,op. 267
    Johann Strauss (son): Auf zum Tanze! Polka schnell, op. 436
    Johann Strauss (son): Tausend und eine Nacht. Waltz op. 346
    Johann Strauss (son): Tik-Tak. Polka schnell, op. 365

    Wiener Philharmoniker
    Gustavo Dudamel

    interesting programme with some rarities but strangely lacking in all but one of the great waltzes of Johann Strauss and, once again, little from Josef whom I contend is the better composer and whose waltzes are absolute gems.

    As for Dudamel, he might be the youngest conductor ever at these concerts, but I'm not particularly enthusiastic to hear him in this music and think his star is waning
    Last edited by Petrushka; 30-12-16, 17:34. Reason: tidy up!
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink
  • Alison
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6487

    #2
    After a couple of uninspiring years I'm more than pleased to see the Dude have a go. We do rather need a new 'star' at this event! This year I'm not studying the programme in advance hoping to engender a more spontaneous reaction on the day. I did just catch a glimpse of Tik-tak as I replied!

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    • underthecountertenor
      Full Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1586

      #3
      Originally posted by Alison View Post
      After a couple of uninspiring years I'm more than pleased to see the Dude have a go. We do rather need a new 'star' at this event! This year I'm not studying the programme in advance hoping to engender a more spontaneous reaction on the day. I did just catch a glimpse of Tik-tak as I replied!
      I very much enjoyed Jansons last year. Prêtre a few years ago was wonderful too. I think that the idea of a 'star' rather goes against the ethos of the concert, which is surely to do with the orchestra's Strauss tradition. I don't want a conductor who will get in the way of that. I fear that Dudamel might.

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      • Stanfordian
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 9340

        #4
        Originally posted by Alison View Post
        After a couple of uninspiring years I'm more than pleased to see the Dude have a go. We do rather need a new 'star' at this event! This year I'm not studying the programme in advance hoping to engender a more spontaneous reaction on the day. I did just catch a glimpse of Tik-tak as I replied!
        Hiya Alison,

        I very much agree with your view: "After a couple of uninspiring years I'm more than pleased to see the Dude have a go." With the odd exception the event has been lacklustre over the last few years.

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12382

          #5
          This is my 46th NYDC and I still long for the simpler tradition of Willi Boskovsky as I first encountered it in the early 1970s. Of those since Boskovsky's last in 1979 only Herbert von Karajan (1987) and Carlos Kleiber (1989 & 1992) have come anywhere near to approaching true greatness. Dudamel is a puzzling choice as he hasn't, as far as I am aware, shown any aptitude for conducting this kind of music and would appear to be a sop towards the record industry. I long to have a true Viennese conductor back at the helm even if it's one nobody has heard of. Still think Manfred Honeck (a former VPO member) would be a top choice.

          Like other events that grow from a local venture into a global money-spinner it's not what it was. In 1977, to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the birth of Josef Strauss, Boskovsky chose a programme entirely made up of Josef's music (Blue Danube and Radetsky apart). I wonder if such a thing could happen now.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #6
            I'm looking forward to the ballet bits, and to the scenes from the Viennese countryside

            (No, really )

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20578

              #7
              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
              I'm looking forward to the ballet bits, and to the scenes from the Viennese countryside

              (No, really )

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12382

                #8
                A reminder that the complete concert is being broadcast, not just on R3, but also on BBC TV via the Red Button Channel 601 starting at 10.10. Why the Beeb don't advertise this more strongly is something I just do not understand but it's there.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6487

                  #9
                  Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                  I very much enjoyed Jansons last year. Prêtre a few years ago was wonderful too. I think that the idea of a 'star' rather goes against the ethos of the concert, which is surely to do with the orchestra's Strauss tradition. I don't want a conductor who will get in the way of that. I fear that Dudamel might.
                  Actually I am against the notion of a 'star' in the sense of a much vaunted celebrity and I agree that is contrary to the spirit of the event. Clumsy wording on my part.

                  Even so I am not convinced that this repertoire doesn't require inspired direction from the rostrum much like anything else. I am not certain that Dudamel will provide this (I rather fancy he will) but am pleased that someone new is being given a chance.

                  Like Richard, I rather enjoy the extras. Some good looking dancers are no hindrance to pleasure!
                  Last edited by Alison; 31-12-16, 21:43.

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                  • Alison
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6487

                    #10
                    who's going to be first to comment on the male/female ratio in the orchestra this year?

                    I will also take the opportunity of pointing out, as happens annually in this parish, that the Danube is not blue.

                    Perhaps I've been on the forum too long

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12382

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Alison View Post
                      who's going to be first to comment on the male/female ratio in the orchestra this year?

                      I will also take the opportunity of pointing out, as happens annually in this parish, that the Danube is not blue.

                      Perhaps I've been on the forum too long
                      I think the male/female ratio in the VPO question is now largely a thing of the past. Impatient types seemed not to understand that this was something that the orchestra could only do gradually In order to retain their unique sound and this seems now to have been done.

                      The Danube? Depending on the sunlight, yes it can be blue. And it can always be blue in the world of the imagination.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                        I think the male/female ratio in the VPO question is now largely a thing of the past.
                        They no longer have a male/ female ratio at all?
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • Stanfordian
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9340

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                          I think the male/female ratio in the VPO question is now largely a thing of the past. Impatient types seemed not to understand that this was something that the orchestra could only do gradually In order to retain their unique sound and this seems now to have been done.

                          The Danube? Depending on the sunlight, yes it can be blue. And it can always be blue in the world of the imagination.
                          Hiya Petrushka,

                          Yes still some way to go with the VPO male/female ratio but it seems underway and it will take time. What did surprise me was the rather low male/female ratio in the much more recently established orchestra the Orquesta Sinfónica Simón Bolívar when I saw them under Dudamel in September at Berlin.

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                          • Richard Tarleton

                            #14
                            I'm pressing the red button but nothing's happening - what channel should your set be tuned to when you press the red btton? I've tried 0103 (Radio 3 on my Sky box) and BBC2.....

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                            • Petrushka
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12382

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                              I'm pressing the red button but nothing's happening - what channel should your set be tuned to when you press the red btton? I've tried 0103 (Radio 3 on my Sky box) and BBC2.....
                              Channel 601, Richard.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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