Joyce DiDonato in prison

[Beef Oven!]

Indeed so. Just as well, really.

Cali: who is the Italian surnamed soprano whom you believe deserves incarceration? Just curious! A PM will do the trick of satisfying said curiosity, if you'd be so kind...

Are you being ironic?

[Pianorak]

I can think of a number of sopranos who ought to be locked up

[Richard Barrett]

Are you being ironic?

[vinteuil]

Cali: who is the Italian surnamed soprano whom you believe deserves incarceration? Just curious! A PM will do the trick of satisfying said curiosity, if you'd be so kind...

... o, surely, we all know really -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Castafiore

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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Castafiore

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[ahinton]

Are you being ironic?

In which particular bit of my post? Anyway, not that I'd noticed, since you ask (and I cannot speak for Cali, of course)...

[Serial_Apologist]

In which particular bit of my post? Anyway, not that I'd noticed, since you ask (and I cannot speak for Cali, of course)...

A case of the ironic being misled by the un-ironic if ever there was one!

[french frank]

Can’t see this cohort of the population being interested in opera, they’ll vote with their feet.

Isn't the important point that you are assuming that because people 'aren't interested in opera' they won't be interested if they're given the opportunity to listen to it? Or are you saying that they've mostly tried it/been forced to listen to it already and they *aren't interested*?

There are many anecdotal stories that when classical music is presented in the right sort of context (i.e. not outside supermarkets to disperse yobbos) it is appreciated by those who would have said they 'didn't like it'.

(Great thread title, by the way!)

[Barbirollians]

Didn't a few years back the ROH provide opera tickets at low prices to Sun readers . Who apparently loved Carmen and gasped and became involved like an opera audience of old ? No doubt many would have thought they would not be interested in it .

Prejudging people due to the fact that they are in prison seems rather narrow minded to me . Look at the success of Timpson's work programme for a start .

[vinteuil]

... Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitken, Asil Nadir, Denis McShane, Andy Coulson - do we really want our taxes to give them free access to Covent Garden quality chanteuses?

[Beef Oven!]

Isn't the important point that you are assuming that because people 'aren't interested in opera' they won't be interested if they're given the opportunity to listen to it? Or are you saying that they've mostly tried it/been forced to listen to it already and they *aren't interested*?

There are many anecdotal stories that when classical music is presented in the right sort of context (i.e. not outside supermarkets to disperse yobbos) it is appreciated by those who would have said they 'didn't like it'.

(Great thread title, by the way!)

I regret that post! What I was trying to do was make a pun around prisoners not having the right to vote and using feet that wouldn’t be allowed. I carelessly opened with some inductive reasoning, when I should have known that absolute certainty would be demanded!

I would imagine that within the context of some kind of options appraisal, they’ll love the event. So, I believe two seemingly contradictory things - the inmates don’t like opera and they will love this event.

[Beef Oven!]

Prejudging people due to the fact that they are in prison seems rather narrow minded to me....

IMV, not quite as narrow-minded as judging people again a second time, when they have served their sentence and are rejoining society and getting back to their livelihood - unless you think natural justice means that sex-offenders don’t count. But then I didn’t prejudge anyone.

[french frank]

I would imagine that within the context of some kind of options appraisal, they’ll love the event. So, I believe two seemingly contradictory things - the inmates don’t like opera and they will love this event.

Then we are in complete agreement!

[Barbirollians]

... Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitken, Asil Nadir, Denis McShane, Andy Coulson - do we really want our taxes to give them free access to Covent Garden quality chanteuses?

That puts another light on it entirely .

[Beef Oven!]

Then we are in complete agreement!

My work is done here!

[ahinton]

My work is done here!

Oh, not all of it, surely? That would be such a shame! (and, for the record, no, I'm not being ironic)...