"through the night" at 0507 am /wednesday May 18/2011

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  • poshsussex
    • Dec 2024

    "through the night" at 0507 am /wednesday May 18/2011

    can anyone help concerning the Polish composer Franciszek Scigalski, whose Symphony in D was played on "Through the Night" at 0507 am on Wednesday May 18,(yes, I did have to get up early this week to go to Gatwick to meet some relatives from USA)
    I loved this music,but I cannot seem to find any recording of it, other than the Radio 3 one, played by the Polish RSO, presumably a Polish Radio recording only for the BBC.
    If anyone does know of any recording of this Composer( Scigalski), I would be most grateful to know about the details etc. thanks
  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30456

    #2
    I imagine the Poles must have dug him out from utter obscurity to perform this - no entry in Grove, none in Wikipedia, no recordings (?). Better record this one while you can ...

    Even the Polish Wikipedia doesn't have a lot of information.
    Last edited by french frank; 20-05-11, 10:23.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Roehre

      #3
      MGG2-P vol.15 col.459:
      Scigalski, Franciszek (1782-1846)

      It seems that none of his some 60 works (mostly vocal: 13 Masses, 10 Graduales, 8 Offertoria, Te Deum, etc; 1 symphony; 4 Polonaises; 8 duos for violin for educational purposes), with the exception of the symphony in D (p.1956) and the polonaises (p.1823 !), has been published.

      The 2nd mvt of the symphony contains Polish folk songs, and has been published separately for that reason in a piano-reduction (p.1956 as well)

      At the moment no further research seems to be planned, either biographically or bibliographically. No catalogue of his works exists or is planned.

      No commercial recordings seem to be available.
      Last edited by Guest; 20-05-11, 10:42.

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      • poshsussex

        #4
        Franciszek Scigalski recordings ?

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        I imagine the Poles must have dug him out from utter obscurity to perform this - no entry in Grove, none in Wikipedia, no recordings (?). Better record this one while you can ...

        Even the Polish Wikipedia doesn't have a lot of information.
        Thanks FrenchFrank and Roehre for your info. Well, now it seems is a good time for some of the recording Companies in Europe to add this Composer to their listings, I am sure that with such an output on composition, they should be able to make a fair selection, for CD even if combining with other Polish composers of that era.
        will just have to see how things pan out in the near future. do Record Label execs ever read these forums, I wonder.?? Maybe they can get some good ideas, if they are keen on undiscovered composers to promote, but will these sell, thats the key question ./!!

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30456

          #5
          Poland seems to have come in from the cold and into the mainstream in recent decades so they may well feel the time has come to promote their musical past. There is a Polish record industry often supported by the Ministry of Culture - I have discs by BeArton (Pearls of Polish Music) and Dux - but if, as Roehre says, there are no published editions of Scigalski, he's unlikely to be high on the list of possibles.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • kernelbogey
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5803

            #6
            There seems to be quite a lot of Polish music these days on TTN, presumably from Polish radio, so an email to TTN about Scigalski might engender performance of more works. (I can't see that happening on any other programme!)

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            • Alf-Prufrock

              #7
              I have found with Through the Night that you have only to wait a few weeks and the music will turn up again. So keep an eye on the lists.

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              • Roehre

                #8
                Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
                I have found with Through the Night that you have only to wait a few weeks and the music will turn up again. So keep an eye on the lists.
                For some items you might say they are "regulars", but unfortunately the majority isn't. Let's cross fingers for the Scigalski-symphony.

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18035

                  #9
                  There are still a couple of days to listen - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0112fyb You can listen as often as you like in the time still available, and of course you may be able to prolong that period.

                  It used to be possible to pick up the music at this site - http://sverigesradio.se/sida/sandnin...programid=2523 - and it used to be available for 30 days after the broadcast which is called Notturno (or equivalent) in different EU countries - but as some may realise, the Swedes have now reduced this to 7 days - according to the text.

                  There may be merits in using this site though - if the quality is better for you. However, the quality from the BBC if you have access to the best streams should be very good. The best of the BBC streams should be at least as good as the Swedish streams, though the lowest quality stream is probably worse.

                  The order of pieces is usually slightly different, with the last hour (UK) being in the first hour on the Swedish site. The Scigalski piece is the second in order in the Swedish version of Notturno. It is pleasant and seems to be indebted to Haydn with slight touches of Mozart.

                  You can get essentially the same programme from other EU broadcasters, though I suspect that most will now conform to the 7 days follow up period for listen again.

                  There are other ways to get a longer time to play pieces which have been broadcast.

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