International Women's Day: Tuesday 8 March

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    4:17 AM
    Pook, Jocelyn (b.1960), text: Motion, Andrew (b.1952)
    Mobile (2002)
    The King's Singers - David Hurley & Robin Tyson (countertenors), Paul Phoenix (tenor), Philip Lawson & Gabriel Crouch (baritones) & Stephen Connolly (bass)

    A very enjoyable little piece. Cantus Firmus 21st century style . I wonder if there was an IP issue.

    Richard
    Thank you for the article. I’ve read the abstract which was interesting if I’ve understood it correctly that the article was about reviewing operas as works of music rather than a matter of performance. It’s something we take it for granted these days.

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    • Richard Barrett
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      • Jan 2016
      • 6259

      Originally posted by doversoul View Post
      Richard
      Thank you for the article. I’ve read the abstract which was interesting if I’ve understood it correctly that the article was about reviewing operas as works of music rather than a matter of performance. It’s something we take it for granted these days.
      Yes. I came across it quite by chance - I was looking for what Charles Burney had to say about this opera, because apparently he took it in on his celebrated tour and was impressed by it. It seems that back in those days less fuss was made about this work having been written by a woman than is the case now. I think there's still a tendency to view previous times through the prism of the Victorian age and its culture and values.

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      • Beef Oven!
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        • Sep 2013
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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16123

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          Do you perceive it as a day for international women or an international day for women (or both or neither)?...

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          • greenilex
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1626

            Both. I had a great evening at a WEA dinner in a Nepalese restaurant with singing and dancing by Art Asia and all of us.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37812

              As nobody (including I ) saw fit to draw attention to yesterday's magnificent sequence of programmes centering on works by modern women composers, I won't take precious time digging out repective iPod links, save to mention the half-hour long Speak Out, featuring Kate Wheatley's choral and orchestral setting of Malala Yousafzai's remarkable speech to the UN. Half of the programme consisted in various people associated with the work's premiere talking about the occasion's inspirational effect, the rest of the performance, lasting roughly 15 minutes, which is due for transmission at 7.30 this evening as the opening of Radio 3 in Concert. Ms Wheatley is a 27-year old Peckham-based composer, and without saying more for now so as not to pre-empt the broadcast, I'd be interested to hear what others feel about the piece.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30450

                Announcement timed yesterday: "BBC Radio 3 to celebrate five forgotten female composers with ambitious recording project":
                • From a Viennese classical prodigy to an African-American composer at the time of the Harlem Renaissance - Leokadiya Kashperova, Marianna Martines, Florence B Price, Augusta Holmès and Johanna Müller-Hermann are the five selected composers
                • Previously unheard music to be recorded by the BBC Orchestras and Choirs and the BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artists, and premiered by Radio 3 on International Women’s Day 2017
                • Part of Radio 3’s mission to bring remarkable music and culture to listeners, expanding the existing classical ‘canon’ to include unjustly neglected women


                Well, right enough, I'd never heard of them (except Florence Price). Perhaps people heard the pieces yesterday?

                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37812

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Announcement timed yesterday: "BBC Radio 3 to celebrate five forgotten female composers with ambitious recording project":
                  • From a Viennese classical prodigy to an African-American composer at the time of the Harlem Renaissance - Leokadiya Kashperova, Marianna Martines, Florence B Price, Augusta Holmès and Johanna Müller-Hermann are the five selected composers
                  • Previously unheard music to be recorded by the BBC Orchestras and Choirs and the BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artists, and premiered by Radio 3 on International Women’s Day 2017
                  • Part of Radio 3’s mission to bring remarkable music and culture to listeners, expanding the existing classical ‘canon’ to include unjustly neglected women


                  Well, right enough, I'd never heard of them (except Florence Price). Perhaps people heard the pieces yesterday?

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...male-composers
                  Ah! - they're for performance next March 8th, ff.

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                  • Tetrachord
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 267

                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    I wasn't around in previous centuries and I assume you weren't either, ahinton.

                    I am talking about the present day when we all agree (I somewhat boldly assume that might include you) that attitudes have changed from even a couple of decades ago never mind previous centuries.

                    The discussion is about International Women's Day on R3 and our respective opinions about same. It would appear, not for the first time on a public forum, that there is a clear variance of view on the matter.

                    Mercifully, there is no scientific or medical evidence, of which I am aware, that anyone who does not share your own general view of the world requires 'serious help' ... absolutely none whatsoever!
                    That last paragraph; totally agree!!!

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                    • Tetrachord
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 267

                      Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                      I'm not making any assumptions, Mr Clanger ... you are doing quite enough of that without me joining in!

                      I have simply stated that the race, gender, religion and politics of a composer, whilst no doubt interesting to the student, is completely irrelevant to me when listening to a piece of music.That is the simple truth.

                      I either appreciate the piece or I don't, whether it was composed by Felix or Fanny!

                      Must everything be agenda-driven? Music is far too important and precious for that!
                      Watch out!! You are failing to conform.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30450

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        Ah! - they're for performance next March 8th, ff.
                        Hmm, copied and pasted from the press release too. Or at least part of the press release. Well, there's a thing, someone was wrong on the internet!
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Well, right enough, I'd never heard of them (except Florence Price).
                          I hadn't heard of her before, but I did know of Augusta Holmès.

                          Augusta Holmès (1847-1903) (France)Irlande, poème symphonique (1882)Dir : ?LIST OF UPLOADS OF COLLECTIONCB, COLLECTIONCB2, COLLECTIONCB3, COLLECTIONCB4 andID...
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • greenilex
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1626

                            Thank you. The piece by AH called Irlande is richly satisfying and ends with a paean (sp?) to a glorious island nation.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37812

                              Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                              a paean (sp?)
                              Yep, that's the correct spelling - unless you're referring to a pea in a pod, or anywhere else for that matter, obviously.

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                Yep, that's the correct spelling - unless you're referring to a pea in a pod, or anywhere else for that matter, obviously.
                                It was a work for orchestra, not paeano.

                                And a highly enjoyable one, too!
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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