International Women's Day: Tuesday 8 March

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  • doversoul1
    Ex Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7132

    #31
    Through the Night: Tuesday (tonight)

    Six hours of music composed by women all recorded live (so I assume).
    On International Women's Day, Catriona Young presents music by women through the ages.

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    • EnemyoftheStoat
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1142

      #32
      Afternoon on 3 Monday 7/3:

      How bizarre to omit the SS Wesley anthem into which Judith Bingham's "The Darkness is no Darkness" segues (and without which Judith's piece is incomplete)...

      Philistines.

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        #33
        Originally posted by doversoul View Post
        Six hours of music composed by women all recorded live (so I assume).
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b072hxtm
        Happened to wake up in the middle of Maria Antonia Walpurgis - what a discovery!

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30652

          #34
          Originally posted by jean View Post
          Happened to wake up in the middle of Maria Antonia Walpurgis - what a discovery!



          (This, disappointingly, stops when the singing begins … )

          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37995

            #35
            Originally posted by jean View Post
            Happened to wake up in the middle of Maria Antonia Walpurgis - what a discovery!
            Not the originator of Walpurgisnacht, however...

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26601

              #36
              Originally posted by jean View Post
              Maria Antonia Walpurgis
              Great stuff - thanks, and to ff for that clip.

              I really enjoyed Louise Farrenc's 3rd Symphony this morning; here's an alternative performance





              That came after a happy reacquaintance with Rebecca Clarke's viola sonata.

              I must say I was/am in two minds about the 'ghettoising' tone of "Women's Day" - part of me finds it patronising, how much better (this is a point BeefO! made earlier I think, haven't got time to search), more inclusive and respectful if these composers were distributed equally among the programming every day instead of endless repetitions of Verdi, Tchaikovsky, Copland (at least there's no danger of stumbling on their pieces unawares today! )...

              But then again, the reality is that one might not have come across this music without the impetus of a "Day" so it must be A Good Thing...
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Richard Barrett
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                • Jan 2016
                • 6259

                #37
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                I must say I was/am in two minds about the 'ghettoising' tone of "Women's Day" - part of me finds it patronising, how much better (this is a point BeefO! made earlier I think, haven't got time to search), more inclusive and respectful if these composers were distributed equally among the programming every day instead of endless repetitions of Verdi, Tchaikovsky, Copland (at least there's no danger of stumbling on their pieces unawares today! )...
                Indeed, although under the circumstances, ie. that Radio 3 (and broadcast media in general) usually give little space to music by women, more is better than less. Another step in the right direction would have been to look outside "classical" music for programming. As far as I'm concerned, for example, Irene Schweizer is one of the most creative jazz pianists in the world. She's been around for some considerable time but I would imagine not many people here would have encountered her.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30652

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  Indeed, although under the circumstances, ie. that Radio 3 (and broadcast media in general) usually give little space to music by women, more is better than less.
                  Or, a classic case of the best being enemy of the good? It's by listening and valuing what we're hearing at present (as was not always the case) that we can ensure there will be more in the future.

                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  other step in the right direction would have been to look outside "classical" music for programming. As far as I'm concerned, for example, Irene Schweizer is one of the most creative jazz pianists in the world.
                  Hint, hint?
                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  She's been around for some considerable time but I would imagine not many people here would have encountered her.

                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Richard Barrett
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                    • Jan 2016
                    • 6259

                    #39
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    It's by listening and valuing what we're hearing at present (as was not always the case) that we can ensure there will be more in the future.
                    Indeed so.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      I must say I was/am in two minds about the 'ghettoising' tone of "Women's Day" - part of me finds it patronising, how much better (this is a point BeefO! made earlier I think, haven't got time to search), more inclusive and respectful if these composers were distributed equally among the programming every day instead of endless repetitions of Verdi, Tchaikovsky, Copland (at least there's no danger of stumbling on their pieces unawares today! )...
                      Yes - it does suggest a "Tick Box" attitude - "Where's all the Music by Women composers?" "But we had 24-hr non-stop programming on 8th March; Did any other Classical broadcaster do as much? Only the BBC is dedicated to such innovative and forward-looking programming, thanks to our commitment to outreach ... [continues for another seven paragraphs]

                      ... ignoring the lack of serious attention paid for the remaining fifty-one weeks. The same thing happened with the "New Year; New Music" "celebration" at the start of the year - brilliant initiative that fizzled out after a fortnight. And damn all the rest of the year.

                      But then again, the reality is that one might not have come across this music without the impetus of a "Day" so it must be A Good Thing...


                      ... and thanks to Richard Barrett for the link to Irene Schweizer, whom I regret never having encountered/heard of before.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37995

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

                        ... and thanks to Richard Barrett for the link to Irene Schweizer, whom I regret never having encountered/heard of before.


                        And are unlikely to have come across here on the jazz threads, I'm afraid, given the dominating hard bop hegemonists. She has been on jazz broadcasts on Radio 3, but it must be many years ago.

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          Not the originator of Walpurgisnacht, however...
                          Mention women and there's always someone who'll turn them into witches...

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by jean View Post
                            Mention women and there's always someone who'll turn them into witches...




                            (I'll just get me broomstick)

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                            • Richard Barrett
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                              • Jan 2016
                              • 6259

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              And are unlikely to have come across here on the jazz threads, I'm afraid, given the dominating hard bop hegemonists. She has been on jazz broadcasts on Radio 3, but it must be many years ago.
                              And let's not forget about the great Joëlle Léandre

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25251

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                                Yes - it does suggest a "Tick Box" attitude - "Where's all the Music by Women composers?" "But we had 24-hr non-stop programming on 8th March; Did any other Classical broadcaster do as much? Only the BBC is dedicated to such innovative and forward-looking programming, thanks to our commitment to outreach ... [continues for another seven paragraphs]

                                ... ignoring the lack of serious attention paid for the remaining fifty-one weeks. The same thing happened with the "New Year; New Music" "celebration" at the start of the year - brilliant initiative that fizzled out after a fortnight. And damn all the rest of the year.




                                ... and thanks to Richard Barrett for the link to Irene Schweizer, whom I regret never having encountered/heard of before.
                                Tick box culture driving these things? I suggested as much recently, and got a flea in my ear from the bosses....

                                anyhow, some excellent music that might not have otherwise been programmed today.( Particularly the Judith Bingham premiere on the Lunchtime concert)

                                But too much of everything seems to come from inside the same old places, with too many cut glass accents for comfort. IMO , of course.

                                and as for " In Tune".......
                                ( Just checking, it hasn't turned into a TV quiz show with live radio relay, has it?)
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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