LPO / Jurowski - 03.05.11

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  • amateur51

    #16
    Originally posted by Ventilhorn View Post
    Will someone please tell me what all this garbage has to do with the LPO and Jurowsky?
    I guess it's the way we humans communicate, Vent

    What do they do on your planet?

    But I'll accept your admonition and try to do better.

    Have you ever thought of applying to take part in this?:

    Panel game in which players must speak for one minute on any subject asked of them

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    • barber olly

      #17
      Originally posted by salymap View Post
      I didn't enjoy the Four Last Songs at all. Her voice seemed forced to me with an unpleasant vibrato. But what do I know?

      Didn't hear the remainder of the concert.
      I did not hear Ms Brewer's (extreme) rendition but Four Last Songs are things of beauty which should be protected from extremes of vibrato. Maybe there should be a Vibratometer which can be set at different levels for different works, with a whistle attached to call time on offenders. Who would survive the Whistle Test?

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      • barber olly

        #18
        Originally posted by Ventilhorn View Post
        Will someone please tell me what all this garbage has to do with the LPO and Jurowsky?
        Are you trying to change habits of this board's lifetime, whenever has sticking to the subject got in the way of a good (or otherwise) thread?

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26524

          #19
          Originally posted by barber olly View Post
          I did not hear Ms Brewer's (extreme) rendition but Four Last Songs are things of beauty which should be protected from extremes of vibrato. Maybe there should be a Vibratometer which can be set at different levels for different works, with a whistle attached to call time on offenders. Who would survive the Whistle Test?
          Precious few!!!!

          A great idea!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26524

            #20
            Originally posted by barber olly View Post
            Are you trying to change habits of this board's lifetime, whenever has sticking to the subject got in the way of a good (or otherwise) thread?
            Agreed! Long live the tangent!! It's what makes life fun and interesting
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26524

              #21
              Originally posted by barber olly View Post
              I did not hear Ms Brewer's (extreme) rendition but Four Last Songs are things of beauty which should be protected from extremes of vibrato. Maybe there should be a Vibratometer which can be set at different levels for different works, with a whistle attached to call time on offenders. Who would survive the Whistle Test?
              Remembering all the live Saturday afternoon broadcasts I've switched off due to the matronly chorus (and some of the soloists), they'd need an industrial strength Vibratometer at the Met....

              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Peter Katin
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 90

                #22
                Originally posted by Simon B View Post
                Christine Brewer seems to be getting a bit of a pasting here - I suspect that the microphones may not have done her justice.

                Whilst it maybe wasn't the most profound interpretation of the 4LS, in terms of pure sound there wasn't much to complain about from 7 rows back in the RFH stalls. Other, that is, than that Strauss's achingly beautiful orchestration benefits from a rather more generous and resonant acoustic than the RFH. Saying that, my hearing has been playing up recently so who knows, maybe the concensus is correct...

                Also, as ever, interpretation is a matter of taste, particularly in these songs. I can't abide the Schwarzkopf/Szell recording - neither the timbre of her voice nor the arch (to me) inflections and over-interpretation. I realise this is heresy, but still...

                Saying all that, the 4LS were still the least good bits of an excellent concert. The outer movements of Tchaikovsky 5 in particular had buckets of nervous tension and plenty of blast from the brass - just what it needs.
                Well, she has, she says, sung them 75 times. I found this performance as convincing as ever - the commercial recording with Runnicles shows up somewhat undernourished string sound and I'm sure that isn't what's wanted. Isn't it interesting to listen again to Flagstad and what a pity no decent recording has ever come to light?

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