Why the glaring omission?

[Auferstehen2]

Hi Calum and thanks. As you well know, I tried to get in on jazz on the old boards, but that proved a mite difficult due to the warm welcome...

Brandenburgs? Love 'em all! I dream of being able to play the solo harpsichord cadenza in the fifth.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

... if i hadn't been into jazz i don't think i would have caught Bach so young!

[Pianorak]

Brandenburgs? Love 'em all! I dream of being able to play the solo harpsichord cadenza in the fifth.

And why not! But perhaps cut your teeth on the Two and Three-Part Inventions?

[Osborn]

The 6 Brandenburgs are live from Chipping Campden on R3 next Tuesday (10th), played by Florilegium. A bit surprising since they were played at last year's proms and (beautifully) by the Academy of Ancient Music a few weeks ago.

A find just about everything I could ever want from music in the magnificent WTK Books 1 & 2. I heard Barenboim play them in two concerts and it was too big a meal - though his playing was often jaw dropping. I think it's more rewarding to savour a few at a time and keep doing so. They're full of wondrous melodies and very accessible.

[Auferstehen2]

Good Grief! Thanks Osborn! The Well Tempered Clavier! How very remiss of me! And I've got them too! Played by Ivan Fischer, I've never actually listened to them.

Time to put that right, I think,

Thanks again,
Mario

[Eudaimonia]

Eudaimonia, thanks for this – you really have made me feel much better. When are you going to visit our little island here in the Med? I’ve already met one message boarder, I’d love to meet another!

Hey, thanks! I'll be in London this summer for the Proms-- send me a PM and I'd be glad to meet up sometime.

“ it's nothing at all to do with you-- it's all about your being a convenient punching bag for some unhappy sod to take out his own frustrations and miseries.”
How very true!
“why let the bullies win? Go for it! The more the merrier.”
Bullies or threads?

Oh, you know there'll always be plenty of the former... hang in there!
Cheers, ~E.

[Auferstehen2]

Eudaimonia, PM sent as requested.

Mario

[Eudaimonia]

Got it!

[remdataram]

Ever since I started contributing to the BBC Messageboards a few years ago, and now onto this forum, I’ve never ceased to wonder why it is that although by common consent (and if I’m wrong please don’t shoot me), the greatest composers seem to be always Bach, Beethoven and/or Mozart.

I hardly ever, if at all, see any mention of Bach here. Why is this? I myself know very little of his output, and always come on here to expand my knowledge of him, and yet, his omission is glaring.

Why is this?

Mario

Hmmm, Bach, Mozart and Beethoven? It seems to me that many current tastes are more towards Beethoven, Schubert, Mahler, Sibelius and Shostakovich.

I didn't 'discover' a love for classical music until I was nearly 20, and, to this day, I can't read or play a note. Notwithstanding, listening to music takes me to another world of feelings, emotions and admiration.

Try as I might, I just can't 'get' Bach or Mozart (Opera excepted); when I read your post all my old doubts came flooding in - what am I missing, what pieces should I be listening to? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

My loss, I suppose - but what a gain with Schubert, Mahler, Sibelius and Shostakovich!

[Auferstehen2]

Remdataram,

Your post really did make me so sad, as the last effect I wanted to create was one of negativity.

Please don’t doubt any single thing about your love of music. No one on earth has a right to tell you what you should like. You should see the number of works I do not yet know – honestly, you’ll be surprised! Indeed, your own list includes two composers (Sibelius and Shostakovich) whose small amount of music I am embarrassed to confess to knowing (3 symphonies by the former and one by the latter).

I too await further suggestions on Bach, but Pianorak in message 18 gave a good one. I've just downloaded some scores for his two and three part inventions, and there's real possibilities there for me - do you like piano music?

I wish you continued happiness in whoever you listen to.

Best wishes,

Mario

[Pianorak]

. . . I too await further suggestions on Bach, but Pianorak in message 18 gave a good one. I've just downloaded some scores for his two and three part inventions, and there's real possibilities there for me - do you like piano music?. . .

I'm glad you approve. Once you have worked your way through some of those you'll be ready to tackle some of the easier "48" - and then the sky's the limit! Enjoy!

You might also like to have a look at the Short Preludes and Fugues by Bach (BWV924 and following). They really are most attractive and not at all difficult.

[remdataram]

Mario,

So sorry, I didn't intend to make anyone sad, I was merely reflecting on what I may be missing - I remember stumbling upon Schubert's Piano Trios and Mahler's Resurrection, both unlocking a whole new world, and wonder whether there are equivalent revelations in Bach and Mozart's compositions.

Thank you for your sentiments, very much reciprocated......

[Auferstehen2]

If I may be allowed to resurrect this thread having returned to some glorious Mediterranean weather after an, ahem, rather memorable game (sorry Chelsea fans), and having picked up a copy of the latest BBC Music Magazine which we get a month or so later out here, the accompanying CD astonishingly is “J S Bach – Great Organ Works” played by the (to me) unknown Gottfried Silbermann.

To save time surfing, as I don’t know any of the works (BWV 541, 544, 564, 582, 593, 622, 654 and 682), any suggestions please on the listening order?

Thanks,

Mario

(TWIT! Correction - I should read the CD insert properly. The name given above refers to the 1714 Gottfried Silbermann organ in Freiberg

The organist is Mr David Goode - my apologies)

[Roehre]

To save time surfing, as I don’t know any of the works (BWV 541, 544, 564, 582, 593, 622, 654 and 682), any suggestions please on the listening order?
Mario

Mario, I'd suggest to keep the order as on the CD, as that is an enjoyably diverse one.

[Auferstehen2]

Without wishing in all honesty to keep bringing my thread up to the top for any personal agenda, is Bach really so unpopular on these boards? I had hoped to learn something about the vast family of Bachs (what IS the collective noun?), and not just JS.

Mario