Dept. of not very good planning

[Flosshilde]

Tomorrow evening -

BBC Symphony Orchestra plays Mahler's 3rd Symphony (broadcast live)

BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra plays Mahler's 10th Symphony

Don't the BBC orchestras co-ordinate? Didn't it strike someone that people might want to hear both?

[Bryn]

Tomorrow evening -

BBC Symphony Orchestra plays Mahler's 3rd Symphony (broadcast live)

BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra plays Mahler's 10th Symphony

Don't the BBC orchestras co-ordinate? Didn't it strike someone that people might want to hear both?

They are broadcasting a performing version of the 10th live from City Halls, Glasgow on the 29th.

However, according to www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06dcsfj next Tuesday's broadcast will actually be of a recording of next Sunday afternoon's performance. Left hand, right hand?

[Flosshilde]

Definitely Dept of they don't know what they're doing. a) the BBCSSO perform on Thursdays in Glasgow, & Saturday (I think) in Edinburgh; and b) the performance in Glasgow is given as the 24th Sept & is the opening concert of the season. I have a ticket for it.

[Bryn]

So it looks like the Edinburgh performance, not the Glasgow, and not live. Not so much a planning problem as a listing one. Looks like the Glasgow performance is to be pretty much a dress rehearsal for the real thing on Sunday.

[jayne lee wilson]

Radio Times says simply "recorded on Sunday in the Usher Hall Edinburgh". Which I'm glad about, as it usually sounds better than City Halls as a broadcast/webcast venue...

See hear, all is clear...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/rcq2fx/by/date/2015

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evq5v2

Regular gigs are Glasgow/Aberdeen (or Perth or Ayr), Thursday/Friday. Usher Hall doesn't seem to feature after 27/09 much....
But deciding to give us the 3rd performance of Mahler 10, from one of the better acoustics, I'd say they definitely know what they're doing...!

[Bryn]

... BBC Symphony Orchestra plays Mahler's 3rd Symphony (broadcast live).

Can anyone here advise where in Mahler's 3rd Symphony there is a role for solo accordion?

[teamsaint]

Can anyone here advise where in Mahker's 3rd Symphony there is a role for solo accordion?

You should take up spot the ball,Bryn.
You're a natural.

[Bryn]

You should take up spot the ball,Bryn.
You're a natural.

Just a bit of craic. Didn't want to get too Crabby about it.

[crb11]

What did people make of tonight's Mahler 3? I just switched on the radio and caught most of the last movement and was pretty impressed - felt quite a clear (and slightly slower) reading in which more of the ideas came out than sometimes. What was the rest like?

[Bryn]

What did people make of tonight's Mahler 3? I just switched on the radio and caught most of the last movement and was pretty impressed - felt quite a clear (and slightly slower) reading in which more of the ideas came out than sometimes. What was the rest like?

I though Oramo not only brought out, but maybe overdid the comedy in Part 1, but I enjoyed it. The trumpets struggled a bit, cracking a fair few notes, and it sounded as if the principal oboist was using a French type instrument, rather than a more suitable Viennese type. A valiant attempt at Mahler's hinaufziehen — wie ein Naturlaut, but not entirely successful, I thought.

[jayne lee wilson]

What did people make of tonight's Mahler 3? I just switched on the radio and caught most of the last movement and was pretty impressed - felt quite a clear (and slightly slower) reading in which more of the ideas came out than sometimes. What was the rest like?

Over the live webstream: An "objective" reading rather than impassioned or individualised, very open, sparkling and even spiky where it needs to be; perhaps a little loud in the quieter parts of the flowers movement, but sweetly played; thrillingly visionary outburst at the end of the scherzo; vivid naturlauts in the Night from the oboe.
A thought-through architectural view, with wonderfully well-judged tempi in first and last movements and What Love told Oramo - careful dynamic gradation through those three great waves and lovely string playing in the finale. The whole performance really seemed to sharpen its focus, expressive power and character in that Adagio.

Really terrific sound via HDs tonight, large & tangibly three-dimensional soundstage, with a gloriously wide dynamic range. Those of us who've taken some trouble over computer-sourced audio have our bad nights, but productions like this justify it all. As Toscanini once said in a 40 foot square studio, listening to mono playback of his latest tapings, "..as if the orchestra was laid out before me".

Thankyou to the BBC Tonmeisters.

[Bryn]

... Really terrific sound via HDs tonight, large & tangibly three-dimensional soundstage, with a gloriously wide dynamic range. Those of us who've taken some trouble over computer-sourced audio have our bad nights, but productions like this justify it all. As Toscanini once said in a 40 foot square studio, listening to mono playback of his latest tapings, "..as if the orchestra was laid out before me".

Thankyou to the BBC Tonmeisters.

I still cannot trust the live HD Sound stream. Indeed, I had to reboot the router an hour or so ago. Luckily I was making do with DAB, which at least reflected the dynamic range pretty well, I guess. I will try the HD Sound via 'Listen Again', later.

[crb11]

Thanks... definitely something for the weekend then.

[gedsmk]

Over the live webstream: An "objective" reading rather than impassioned or individualised, very open, sparkling and even spiky where it needs to be; perhaps a little loud in the quieter parts of the flowers movement, but sweetly played; thrillingly visionary outburst at the end of the scherzo; vivid naturlauts in the Night from the oboe.
A thought-through architectural view, with wonderfully well-judged tempi in first and last movements

It was very good, better than a disastrous Jurowski a few years ago, but I felt Abbado (Berliners, RFH) and Salonen (twice in RFH) paced it better. Perhaps I prefer my Mahler slow movements to be more like Bruckner, with the various tempi in a single movement organically related to each other. I didn't "feel the love" last night. Will give it another listen, though.

[Flosshilde]

Can anyone here advise where in Mahker's 3rd Symphony there is a role for solo accordion?

I don't know that one - are there any recordings?