Mahler: Symphony No 3 Simon Bolivar Orchestra, Dudamel

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  • jonfan
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    • Dec 2010
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    Mahler: Symphony No 3 Simon Bolivar Orchestra, Dudamel

    Something rather special happened.
  • Ein Heldenleben
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    • Apr 2014
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    #2
    Thanks for posting. I was waiting for some one to. Those brass at the end - better than the Bernstein recording and that’s saying something . They must have some lungs on them …
    A wonderful performance which Martin Skelly , quite rightly, plugged heavily on his show today.

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    • jonfan
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1463

      #3
      Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
      Thanks for posting. I was waiting for some one to. Those brass at the end - better than the Bernstein recording and that’s saying something . They must have some lungs on them …
      A wonderful performance which Martin Skelly , quite rightly, plugged heavily on his show today.
      The engineering was also wonderful and negated most of the awful acoustics of the appalling room.
      No analysis can do justice to this amazing experience. Highly recommended,
      (Being picky, it’s Ian Skelly)


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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
        • 7124

        #4
        Originally posted by jonfan View Post
        The engineering was also wonderful and negated most of the awful acoustics of the appalling room.
        No analysis can do justice to this amazing experience. Highly recommended,
        (Being picky, it’s Ian Skelly)

        Indeed but didn’t Martin Handley recommend it as well ? I must have got confused !

        Yes the engineers do the same job at the Royal Albert hall and the Royal Festival Hall.

        It must have been earsplitting at the Barbican - far too small a room for a modern Symphony Orchestra .

        highly recommended indeed.

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        • jonfan
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          This stands up well against the legendary performances, perhaps a live recording has that extra frisson? My benchmarks are Horenstein and the LSO and Haitink and the BRSO. (Martin or Ian, I’m probably confused, but it was Ian at the concert, no matter )

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          • Ein Heldenleben
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            • Apr 2014
            • 7124

            #6
            Originally posted by jonfan View Post
            This stands up well against the legendary performances, perhaps a live recording has that extra frisson? My benchmarks are Horenstein and the LSO and Haitink and the BRSO. (Martin or Ian, I’m probably confused, but it was Ian at the concert, no matter )
            Would you really put it in that exalted league? Were you there by any chance ?
            I was planning to listen again at the weekend …
            Strange how few comments there are isn’t it ?
            Were this a Prom there would be many more. A good 24 hours for Mahler with a Rattle / Bavarian Symphony no 7 just this pm .

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
              • 12386

              #7
              I listen so little to R3 these days that I was completely unaware of this broadcast, though I did see the posters in the Barbican last Sunday.

              I'll try to catch it on Sounds (assuming my Internet is up to the job) but in terms of legendary performances it will have to be something else again to expunge memories of a totally overwhelming performance, also in the Barbican, given in 2004, by Haitink and the Berlin Philharmonic. Alas, that was never broadcast and it remains one of the topmost musical experiences of my life. Can't really see the Dude improving on that one!
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • jonfan
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                • Dec 2010
                • 1463

                #8
                Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                Would you really put it in that exalted league? Were you there by any chance ?
                I was planning to listen again at the weekend …
                Strange how few comments there are isn’t it ?
                Were this a Prom there would be many more. A good 24 hours for Mahler with a Rattle / Bavarian Symphony no 7 just this pm .
                We all have favourite performances which we defend against all assailants! I think it’s good to be open to new experiences and be ready to be moved. I listened on the highest fi setting on Sounds through B&W phones. Stand out to me was an orchestra that wasn’t in the European tradition with a more raw sound and with an excitement of the new that sums up how to approach pieces that have been performed many times.
                All the proms are listed in detail on these boards so it’s easy for the rest of us to comment. It’s good to get concerts like this flagged up. Rattle’s Mahler 7 up next for me!

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                • richardfinegold
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                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7818

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                  Would you really put it in that exalted league? Were you there by any chance ?
                  I was planning to listen again at the weekend …
                  Strange how few comments there are isn’t it ?
                  Were this a Prom there would be many more. A good 24 hours for Mahler with a Rattle / Bavarian Symphony no 7 just this pm .
                  Is there a way to hear this? I have been involved in an extensive fb group discussion of the Horenstein record, which Hurwitz trashed.

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                  • silvestrione
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1738

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post

                    Would you really put it in that exalted league? Were you there by any chance ?
                    I was planning to listen again at the weekend …
                    Strange how few comments there are isn’t it ?
                    Were this a Prom there would be many more. A good 24 hours for Mahler with a Rattle / Bavarian Symphony no 7 just this pm .
                    I can only do so many Mahler 3s, it's such an overwhelming experience. Now I've heard these responses I must try to make room for it.

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
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                      • Apr 2014
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post

                      Is there a way to hear this? I have been involved in an extensive fb group discussion of the Horenstein record, which Hurwitz trashed.
                      Both Dudamel and Rattle are on sounds. Dudamel on weds evening , Rattle Thurs pm

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26601

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                        Stand out to me was an orchestra that wasn’t in the European tradition with a more raw sound and with an excitement of the new that sums up how to approach pieces that have been performed many times.
                        Yes indeed. This performance already downloaded for a listen; interesting to read the reactions on this thread - in particular the above. There’s been a tendency to dismiss Dudamel as an ‘effects’ merchant but I’ve never subscribed to that view, in particular since I went to a performance by these forces of Mahler’s 5th (RFH) - it was up there with the best, real cumulative power balanced with detail, superbly played and paced. Can’t wait to hear what they made of No 3.
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22230

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post

                          Yes indeed. This performance already downloaded for a listen; interesting to read the reactions on this thread - in particular the above. There’s been a tendency to dismiss Dudamel as an ‘effects’ merchant but I’ve never subscribed to that view, in particular since I went to a performance by these forces of Mahler’s 5th (RFH) - it was up there with the best, real cumulative power balanced with detail, superbly played and paced. Can’t wait to hear what they made of No 3.
                          I remember him in a televised Prom conducting Symphony 2 some years ago and to my inexpert ears and senses itvwas a v good performance - a quick google tells me it was 2011 - time does seem to fly as I age!

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                          • Prommer
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1275

                            #14
                            Surely the one to beat is Abbado's Mahler 3 at the Proms in 2007... that was breathtaking...

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                            • Prommer
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1275

                              #15
                              The shimmer and glow on the strings in the peroration! Magical.

                              Will listen to this 'un and revert...

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