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[french frank]

... your text is from the 1734 edition : I think FF used the 1743 edition prepared under Pope's direction. Pope went on correcting the poem until he died, and various of the lines were moved about during his revisions.

Bravo, monsieur! I will use this to illustrate the intellectual level Radio 3 should cater for - including musically - should I reply to Mr Jackson's last. I think I shall do so because I consider the exchange 'unfinished business' rather than wasted effort. It could, of course, be both. However as I have a view ... (I discovered that it's possible to 'Contact the White House', and if one does so one is invited to 'Share your thoughts with the President'. Which I duly did ...)***

*** Not about R3, may I hastily add.

[Serial_Apologist]

Bravo, monsieur! I will use this to illustrate the intellectual level Radio 3 should cater for - including musically - should I reply to Mr Jackson's last. I think I shall do so because I consider the exchange 'unfinished business' rather than wasted effort. It could, of course, be both. However as I have a view ... (I discovered that it's possible to 'Contact the White House', and if one does so one is invited to 'Share your thoughts with the President'. Which I duly did ...)***

*** Not about R3, may I hastily add.

There is a parody version sung by Alan Price in one of his "Greek choruses" in Lindsay Anderson's 1973 film O Lucky Man, with words (as far as I can remember) as follows:

Hope springs eternal in a young man's breast
As he dreams a life he never lived before.
Without that dream your life is nothing, nothing, nothing,
Until you find out that dream is dead.

Personally I would have changed that last line to Until you put that dream to bed.

[french frank]

There is a parody version sung by Alan Price in one of his "Greek choruses" in Lindsay Anderson's 1973 film O Lucky Man, with words (as far as I can remember) as follows:

Hope springs eternal in a young man's breast
As he dreams a life he never lived before.
Without that dream your life is nothing, nothing, nothing,
Until you find out that dream is dead.

Personally I would have changed that last line to Until you put that dream to bed.

I think the third 'nothing' would be better at the beginning of the last line. And omit 'out'.

[Serial_Apologist]

I think the third 'nothing' would be better at the beginning of the last line. And omit 'out'.

That's probably how it was. I'd have to go through the tape to find the correct doggerel!

[LMcD]

According to Petroc, R J Mitchell designed the Submarine Spitfire. An unrelieved diet of film music became increasingly tiresome, so I switched to TPTV for the first episode of 'Doomwatch'.

[Nick Armstrong]

According to Petroc, R J Mitchell designed the Submarine Spitfire. An unrelieved diet of film music became increasingly tiresome, so I switched to TPTV for the first episode of 'Doomwatch'.

… great post!

[smittims]

I've just listened again, to make sure it wasn't just a fluff, but no, he really does say with absolute clarity 'the submarine spitfire'. It confirms my suspicions that some of these people, however much of our money they are paid , simply don't know what they are talking about.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I've just listened again, to make sure it wasn't just a fluff, but no, he really does say with absolute clarity 'the submarine spitfire'. It confirms my suspicions that some of these people, however much of our money they are paid , simply don't know what they are talking about.

Given that Petroc had also presented Breakfast that morning (waking at what 04.00 / 05.00 ? ) and then taken the train to Chichester to live present the live concert I think we should cut him some slack for what was evidently a slip of the tongue. He must have done a sixteen hour day on Friday . He earns his money I think.

[smittims]

I think we'll have to agree to differ! I can't really call that a slip of the tongue. If he's not up to the job he shouldn't collect the pay. If it had been a local vicar,say, called on at short notice, unpaid, and who said 'submarine, ha ha, sorry, I mean , of course Supermarine'. then I'd have understood . But this man is paid a lot (and I mean a lot more than most will ever see) ) of our money to do nothing but talk on the radio. So I'm sorry to disagree, but I can't excuse that.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter. It's not important. But if it's not important it means he's not important, and maybe we shouldn't be expected to believe what the says.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I think we'll have to agree to differ! I can't really call that a slip of the tongue. If he's not up to the job he shouldn't collect the pay. If it had been a local vicar,say, called on at short notice, unpaid, and who said 'submarine, ha ha, sorry, I mean , of course Supermarine'. then I'd have understood . But this man is paid a lot (and I mean a lot more than most will ever see) ) of our money to do nothing but talk on the radio. So I'm sorry to disagree, but I can't excuse that.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter. It's not important. But if it's not important it means he's not important, and maybe we shouldn't be expected to believe what the says.

So you’ve never made a mistake then ?

[smittims]

Oh, now, that sounds a little testy. Yes, I have made mistakes and apologised for them and corrected them. I don't think he did. No-one's perfect. I'm not saying he should be sacked. But his salary demands higher standards than he exhibits, in my humble opinion.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Oh, now, that sounds a little testy. Yes, I have made mistakes and apologised for them and corrected them. I don't think he did. No-one's perfect. I'm not saying he should be sacked. But his salary demands higher standards than he exhibits, in my humble opinion.

It’s a small mistake over 5 hours of live broadcasting from an impeccable presenter. If I sound testy it’s because I think it’s simply not reasonable to criticise someone for such a tiny slip. We are not going to agree are we? To be honest I was much more concerned at the dryness of the orchestral sound which made it a very difficult listen.

[Nick Armstrong]

According to Petroc, R J Mitchell designed the Submarine Spitfire. An unrelieved diet of film music became increasingly tiresome, so I switched to TPTV for the first episode of 'Doomwatch'.

Hey, upside: at least there were no ‘vocalists’ in this one!

Call me a ‘glass half-full’ kinda guy

I shall listen to it at odd moments as semi-background - always like hearing VW’s 49th Parallel prelude

[french frank]

IIf he's not up to the job he shouldn't collect the pay.

Well, arguably he's employed professionally to present Radio 3 programmes, so his heart (and head) may not be 100% into presenting for Radio 2. They should have imported Ken Bruce to present it. Or perhaps even R3's very own Matthew Sweet.

I think PT should sue the BBC for cruel and inhumane treatment.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Well, arguably he's employed professionally to present Radio 3 programmes, so his heart (and head) may not be 100% into presenting for Radio 2. They should have imported Ken Bruce to present it. Or perhaps even R3's very own Matthew Sweet.

I think PT should sue the BBC for cruel and inhumane treatment.

He might have more an argument about the length of his working day though quite a few presenters would be happy to be live 24 hours a day.