G&S

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Let the snobs put that in their pipe and smoke it!

vinteuil's joshing aside - have there been any "snobbish" comments? Does genuine dislike indicate "snobbishness"?

[vinteuil]

Carlos Kleiber

... marvellous in so many ways. And yet he would do those Vienna New Year concerts. Baffling...

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Membership remains in good standing

Excellent.

[Sir Velo]

vinteuil's joshing aside - have there been any "snobbish" comments? Does genuine dislike indicate "snobbishness"?

I, for one, am happy to be called a snob and a G&S lover!

[Prommer]

I, for one, am happy to be called a snob and a G&S lover!

Oh dear, not sure that is going to help the cause...!

[Prommer]

... marvellous in so many ways. And yet he would do those Vienna New Year concerts. Baffling...

He was told by his father that it was the ultimate challenge in conducting - not the New Year's concerts themselves, but Strauss.

Yes, light music! Yikes, how ghastly. Come away my dears, there's nothing to see here...Nurse, nurse, the pills...

But seriously, one wouldn't claim quite that of G&S but CK remained keen to conduct the Mikado, mentioning this to Peter Jonas when he was in charge at ENO.

Would love to have seen that if it had happened. Would the snobs have turned up because it was Carlos, or stayed away because it was G&S...Hmmm.

Why did he like it? Well, whisper it quietly... 'cos he had a sense of humour! Fancy.

[vinteuil]

Oh dear, not sure that is going to help the cause...!

... o, I don't think you need worry - the venn diagrams of snobs and those who enjoy Gilbert and Sullivan overlap: - however -

some snobs may like G & S;
many snobs can't abide G or S;
many G & S lovers are not snobs;
many are not snobs and cannot abide G or S.

[Prommer]

... o, I don't think you need worry - the venn diagrams of snobs and those who enjoy Gilbert and Sullivan overlap: - however -

some snobs may like G & S;
many snobs can't abide G or S;
many G & S lovers are not snobs;
many are not snobs and cannot abide G or S.

Now you are just being a syllogistic snob!

[cloughie]

I, for one, am happy to be called a snob and a G&S lover!

Sounds like the mile high club on Doyley's Cart.

Actually I like S but not G!

[Nick Armstrong]

[Carlos Kleiber]... marvellous in so many ways. And yet he would do those Vienna New Year concerts. Baffling...

Not really....

I can tire of J. & J.S. as swiftly as anyone - but not when it's done like that. I love the giggle at the end.

That's not a New Year concert; but this rehearsal for one is interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auwj4I0RpAw

- how complicated can it be to get the right kind of cymbal crash in the right place... ?!

[Wallace]

Not really....

I can tire of J. & J.S. as swiftly as anyone - but not when it's done like that. I love the giggle at the end.

That's not a New Year concert; but this rehearsal for one is interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auwj4I0RpAw

- how complicated can it be to get the right kind of cymbal crash in the right place... ?!

Love it.
Thanks Caliban

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Possibly my least favourite G & S operetta is The Mikado. I just find Sullivan's music to be a bit too predictable, though it's probably Gilbert' finest.
I prefer Iolanthe, Yeoman, Pirates, Pinafore, Ruddigore and Trial by Jury.

[Prommer]

Love it.
Thanks Caliban

This was in Japan...where he was adored.

Clearly not when he was doing deep research in to The Mikado!

[Don Basilio]

Gilbert and Sullivan used to have an unfortunate place in English culture - camp for straights and culture for philistines. "I don't like opera, but I like Gilbert and Sullivan."

The whole shebang is parodic through and through. Love it or loathe it. (I love it now and again.)

[Prommer]

Gilbert and Sullivan used to have an unfortunate place in English culture - camp for straights and culture for philistines. "I don't like opera, but I like Gilbert and Sullivan."

The whole shebang is parodic through and through. Love it or loathe it. (I love it now and again.)

Spot on!