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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #16
    Originally posted by Oliver View Post
    Thank God....I thought I was the only one.
    Where've you been? It's been de rigueur to loathe G&S since at least 1950!
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #17
      Originally posted by Wallace View Post
      Are G&S still loved and cherished hereabouts?
      Definitely!

      Can't see why people would have a problem with G&S????

      I adore Gilbert and Sullivan. I have seen every opera, either in professional performances or amateur productions (many operas, three or four times).

      My favourite is The Mikado. I took my family to an ENO Jonathan Miller production in 2006 which was fabulous. Having said that, some of the most enjoyable performances have been put on by amateurs.

      I have the Decca box set of the D'Oyly Carte recordings, for whenever the urge takes me.

      And the Mike Leigh film 'Topsy Turvy' with Jim Broadbent and Timothy Spall is an absolute must-watch!

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20564

        #18
        In my first term as a university music student, I joined the G & S Society - one of only two music students to be a member, the other being the M.D. I joined in order to be the rehearsal accompanist - every Tuesday and Thursday. However, the Music Dept required all of its students to buy a season ticket for the series of weekly Tuesday evening chamber concerts (which were rather good, with the likes of Peter Katin, Stephen Bishop (as he then was), Ossian Ellis and John Carol Case performing) and to attend every concert. I was given dispensation to support the G & S Society, but the situation emphasised the gulf of musical perception.
        In the year after I left to do teacher training elsewhere, I returned to attend a performance of Gondoliers, and was pleasantly surprised to discover that there were now many music students involved, many of them having lead roles in the cast. The reason for the change? Rehearsals no longer clashed with the chamber concerts.
        The moral is that musical snobbery need not interfere with appreciation of a particular style of music.

        Incidentally, Pineapple Poll is rather good too. I got to know this via Mackerras's first ever recording of the work on 78s.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #19
          I love G & S too. The trouble is, record companies don't seem to be recording any of the operettas?
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • richardfinegold
            Full Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 7535

            #20
            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
            President Nixon was a huge fan.
            He would not have made a very good modern major general

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            • MLF

              #21
              I have often regarded G&S is a guilty pleasure. However, having listened to Iolanthe at the weekend (and attended Rocket Opera's splendid "Mikado" a week ago) I ask myself - why should I feel guilty for enjoying this?

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #22
                Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                Sullivan's tum-te-tumming tunes
                Are they any different from Verdi's tum-te-tumming tunes?

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                • Conchis
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2396

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                  Are they any different from Verdi's tum-te-tumming tunes?
                  Not really: when (early) Verdi is performed in English, I find it hard to distinguish him from S!

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                  • ardcarp
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11102

                    #24
                    having listened to Iolanthe at the weekend
                    ...arguably Sullivan's finest, if not the most popular. And the political satire could apply just as much today:

                    When in that House MPs divide
                    If they've a brain and cerebellum too,
                    They've got to leave that brain outside
                    And vote just as their leaders tell 'em to.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                      when (early) Verdi is performed in English, I find it hard to distinguish him from S!
                      "Typically 'Italian' - in the worst sense of the word!", then?
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20564

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
                        ...arguably Sullivan's finest, if not the most popular. And the political satire could apply just as much today:

                        When in that House MPs divide
                        If they've a brain and cerebellum too,
                        They've got to leave that brain outside
                        And vote just as their leaders tell 'em to.
                        Exactly. It doesn't date at all.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20564

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MLF View Post
                          I have often regarded G&S is a guilty pleasure. However, having listened to Iolanthe at the weekend (and attended Rocket Opera's splendid "Mikado" a week ago) I ask myself - why should I feel guilty for enjoying this?
                          If you enjoy any music, you shouldn't feel guilty. Be yourself.

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                          • antongould
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8734

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            If you enjoy any music, you shouldn't feel guilty. Be yourself.
                            Exactly pigeonholes are for pigeons ......

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                            • agingjb
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 156

                              #29
                              I like G&S, and I'm always a little disconcerted by the antipathy they inspire among some people. But then I reflect that there is not a single musical work in existence that someone here does not detest.

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                              • Sir Velo
                                Full Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3217

                                #30
                                Originally posted by agingjb View Post
                                I like G&S, and I'm always a little disconcerted by the antipathy they inspire among some people. But then I reflect that there is not a single musical work in existence that someone here does not detest.
                                I think it's because they are associated (wrongly) with "more tea vicar" and WI amateur theatricals. Absolutely brilliant satire and wit from Gilbert; and infernally catchy melodies from his partner in crime.

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