Basingstoke gets Rattled

[Alain Maréchal]

So if you commission someone to build you a house (for example) you don't pay a penny until the day you move in?

Why (again) would musicians NOT want to have bookings for a year ahead? (which is what you suggested)
The musicians don't get paid until they have done the playing BUT someone might be commissioned to write a new piece who does get paid before the performance.

The house: 10% up front, 40% at first stage, 40% at second stage and the rest held back until the snagging is done. Bear in mind that the builder doesn't pay for his materials until he has received them, and as a businessman he should be properly capitalised to pay his workmen. These payments all go through the architect anyway, so I had no knowledge of what went to whom.

Musicians whether performers or composers may have their booking and their payment whenever they wish; that is no concern of the audience.

[MrGongGong]

i'm not sure what fairness (whatever that may be) has to do with it, but perhaps the artists should rebel against the policy.

why ?

[MrGongGong]

The house: 10% up front, 40% at first stage, 40% at second stage and the rest held back until the snagging is done. Bear in mind that the builder doesn't pay for his materials until he has received them, and as a businessman he should be properly capitalised to pay his workmen. These payments all go through the architect anyway, so I had no knowledge of what went to whom.

Musicians whether performers or composers may have their booking and their payment whenever they wish; that is no concern of the audience.

The Opera?

I know we aren't supposed to talk about politics
BUT your comments strike me a classic toryspeak......... everything is like running a house , everything has the same financial model and so on.

You are happy to pay an architect to design you a house that doesn't exist yet. Interesting

[Sir Velo]

Musicians whether performers or composers may have their booking and their payment whenever they wish; that is no concern of the audience.

So no doubt you think that people buy tickets for the Olympics or the World Cup on the door, on the night, eh?

[Alain Maréchal]

You are happy to pay an architect to design you a house that doesn't exist yet. Interesting

I said nothing about being happy, but I did get him to carry most of the risk. I know little about toryspeak, I keep out of UK politics. Are they the ones with better tailors?

[MrGongGong]

I said nothing about being happy, but I did get him to carry most of the risk. I know little about toryspeak, I keep out of UK politics. Are they the ones with better tailors?

NO, never trust a man in a suit

Quote Originally Posted by alain maréchal View Post
i'm not sure what fairness (whatever that may be) has to do with it, but perhaps the artists should rebel against the policy.

I'm still puzzled by this?

[Alain Maréchal]

So no doubt you think that people buy tickets for the Olympics or the World Cup on the door, on the night, eh?

I attended the Olympic opening and closing ceremonies, but I have no idea when the tickets were purchased. I assumed a few months in advance, which is when I was invited. They were too expensive anyway, whatever the cost; I was baffled by one and bored by the other.

[Alain Maréchal]

NO, never trust a man in a suit



I'm still puzzled by this?

I am still puzzled by life. Enjoy the puzzlement.

[MrGongGong]

You really didn't think about it, did you?

[Alain Maréchal]

NO, never trust a man in a suit

I think the wearing or not of a suit is no guide to trustworthiness, but the wearing of a suit with no tie is the sign of a man trying to hedge his bets, and thus not to be trusted.

Life: never gave it a moment's thought, just went with the flow. I never even planned a career, it just happened. One day, before I knew it, I had retired. Now that I look back, I realise that like Gally Threepwood I have a fund of inside knowledge that I could blackmail people with, if the need arose.

[teamsaint]

Most men in business who wear a suit these days, don't wear a tie, in my experience. I tend to judge their trustworthiness by their actions.
Best not get onto the subject of retirement......

[MrGongGong]

I think the wearing or not of a suit is no guide to trustworthiness, but the wearing of a suit with no tie is the sign of a man trying to hedge his bets, and thus not to be trusted.

Today some nonsense poetry (or election leaflets can through our door, in spite of the NO junk mail etc sign !)
It's obvious that some folks really do think that the wearing of 1950's office worker costume is meant to inspire trust...... it doesn't in me

Really clever people (and I'm NOT talking about myself) don't wear suits (unless they are getting married or going to a funeral)

The chap in the shabby kecks who everyone calls Mr when you are in Hospital knows more than all the folks in the fancy dress
The folks at CERN

and so on.......

[Alain Maréchal]

The chap in the shabby kecks who everyone calls Mr when you are in Hospital knows more than all the folks in the fancy dress

Do not confuse tv with life. In my day, the person who I could always rely on to come up with the goods was the woman, usually uniformed, whom everybody called "chief". Also, in my day, the Misters wore suits with bow ties, but they were often Neurosurgeons and liked to show their value. On the subject of perceived value, when on secondment to the UK, which happened a lot (I'm being "tapped" even now) I was encouraged to wear a bow on the grounds that it would justify the fees, and since I was employed by a French organisation, a little sartorial snappiness was ecouraged.

I never confused cleverness with neatness, but untidy appearances (which to me, means lack of a suit in a professional environment) would not win my respect, and fortunately, although I never sought it, I was in a position to expect it.

ps I think cleverness is over-rated. It has a certain unpredictable quality. Application, on the other hand, usually achieves results.

[David-G]

I naively thought I might find a discussion of Basingstoke or Rattle...

[teamsaint]

I naively thought I might find a discussion of Basingstoke or Rattle...

What do you think of the Anvil, Dave?

personally, I like the camaraderie in the front row, and being about 5 yards from the solists.the beer isnt too bad. The view over the ring road isn't going to change. The ticket pricing structure needs changing. programmes need to be a bit more adventurous. parking is easy and cheap, and the railway station is dead handy.
Not enough tables to sit at in the foyer. ticket office staff quite helpful. Website is serviceable, booking fees reasonable. Acoustic seems fine, range of orchestras reasonably interesting for a provincial hall.

And Denis is coming to town. Think I am busy that night though.........