Lazy presenters

[marvin]

If you're going to nitpick about her pronunciation, you could at least get her name right.

Ouch! Mr Nasty here. Quite a few nasty, nitpickers here. This forum seems a magnet for them.

[jean]

That was my point. Let him that is without sin, etc.

[vinteuil]

An interesting concept - a list of things one doesn't know. Can one know the things one doesn't know, or does the fact that one doesn't know them only become apparent when one does know them? Is it only possible to have a list of things one doesn't know once one knows them, in which case one wouldn't cross things off it but add things to it, and the list would grow rather than reduce,

... I like the analogy some scientists use about their work : imagine an infinite forest, in which we dwell; we start hacking to make a circle of cleared land, which comprises the knowledge science has brought about. What now of the circumference which shows the limit of what we don't know? - it has expanded. Each further hacking into the undergrowth to clear new terrain - adds to our knowledge, and simultaneously expands the circumference of what we don't know...

[french frank]

An interesting concept - a list of things one doesn't know. Can one know the things one doesn't know, or does the fact that one doesn't know them only become apparent when one does know them? Is it only possible to have a list of things one doesn't know once one knows them, in which case one wouldn't cross things off it but add things to it, and the list would grow rather than reduce,

Well, I certainly knew that I wasn't sure how to pronounce Jean Paul. I know how to pronounce Jean-Paul Sartre, but knowing that Jean Paul was German meant I wasn't sure how to pronounce either name. But then, if I note that someone has written 'la garçon' I have check to make sure it can't be feminine in some context that I'm unaware of.

[Ravensbourne]

Gustavo Gimeno

Just heard a KD classic, closing the lunchtime recital (which I'd missed the start of) - her pronunciation of the pianist's name was completely unintelligible - she said it three times in the space of a minute, and I hadn't the faintest idea who it was, a sort of verbal squiggle. It was Simon Trpčeski, I see from the Radio Times - not the easiest I grant you. Curious, I found this on t'internet - perfectly audible and repeatable - actually comes across as three separate syllables, rather than a monosyllabic gabble. Why does she do it?

When she said "Gimeno" in Afternoon on 3, it sounded like someone just clearing their throat. It once again had me rushing to the RadioTimes to see who she meant.

[Nick Armstrong]

When she said "Gimeno" in Afternoon on 3, it sounded like someone just clearing their throat. It once again had me rushing to the RadioTimes to see who she meant.

Classic...

[Richard Tarleton]

When she said "Gimeno" in Afternoon on 3, it sounded like someone just clearing their throat. It once again had me rushing to the RadioTimes to see who she meant.

There was another such on the Tuesday lunchtime concert - she gabbled the clarinettist Karl Krikku's name so as to render it unintelligible - Radio Times to the rescue again. Why does she do it?

[doversoul1]

Well, obviously, she can’t help it. My question is, why dose Radio 3 still have her?

[ahinton]

When she said "Gimeno" in Afternoon on 3, it sounded like someone just clearing their throat.

One could quite easily sound rather as though doing that by uttering "Derham".

It once again had me rushing to the RadioTimes to see who she meant.

Had I heard it, it would have had me rushing for something else...

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Well, obviously, she can’t help it. My question is, why dose Radio 3 still have her?

It can only be that she'd cost too much to get rid of.

[BBMmk2]

I remember the presenter Sara Mohr Pietsch saying Black Dyke Colliery Band!!! I mean!!!

[Anna]

I'm afraid I can't remember when it was - a few weeks ago - I turned on R3 and heard a piece playing (which I don't think I'd ever heard before) that I liked very much. When it ended she announced it was Les Elements by - ??? - there was such an exaggerated rolling of R's that sounded nothing more like throat clearing that I was totally flummoxed and had to resort to looking up the playlist later. It was by Jean-Fery Rebel.

[Nick Armstrong]

I think of presenters' varying abilities with 'foreign' words as being on The Cowan-Derham Scale. Poor Rob chalks up -10 at one end, regarding any foreign title or name rather like (as Richard T I think said) the fences in a Show Jumping puissance event, with French phrases representing the 7 foot Wall out of which he invariably knocks several bricks, if not ploughing straight through; and La Derham scores 10 at the other end for incomprehensible, distorted, pretentious over-pronunciation. I dread her tackling dear old Epping-born Tony Pappano's name - always a resounding +10 on The C-D Scale!

Your Handleys, Gores, Fryers and Skellys seem efforlessly to be able to manage a pleasantly and totally comprehensibly neutral 0 or thereabouts....

[french frank]

The best advice is surely: "Do your homework and don't try too hard." Much is forgivable - I've never been one to carp at JS Bark (just a slight lowering of the eyelids).

[Nick Armstrong]

... and a drawing down of blinds.