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  • gurnemanz
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7414

    Lazy presenters

    Just enjoying some lovely Lieder singing from Kitty Whateley for the Lunchtime Concert. Annoyed enough to make a post complaining that the presenter can't even be bothered to check how to pronounce the name of the poet to whose poems the recital is devoted - Adelbert von Chamisso. It took me only ten seconds on Google to confirm that I had been pronouncing it correctly for the last 40 years - "shamisso" not "kamisso".
  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12993

    #2
    Yes, but you had some doubt as to whether you were pronouncing it correctly and had the humility to check. SM-P?? Ahem.

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    • Oldcrofter
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 226

      #3
      For those still ignorant of the pronunciation, you may find these of considerable assistance:

      How to say adelbert von chamisso in English? Pronunciation of adelbert von chamisso with 2 audio pronunciations, 1 meaning, 2 sentences and more for adelbert von chamisso.


      or:



      I'd definitely opt for "howtopronounce" example 3.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30507

        #4
        Ahdelbairt fon Shahmisso http://www.forvo.com/word/adelbert_von_chamisso/ (Male from Germany)
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • gurnemanz
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7414

          #5
          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
          Yes, but you had some doubt as to whether you were pronouncing it correctly and had the humility to check. SM-P?? Ahem.
          I did feel the need to double check before making a fool of myself on here - after all, BBC announcers do sometimes get it right. Ms Whately also got it wrong when she announced her encore, but was maybe just following the announcer. More to the point, I did enjoy the recital and found out that Kitty is the daughter of Morse sidekick, Kevin Whately.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25231

            #6
            I wish they could go all the way and refer to singers as Mezzo -Soprano, rather than just Mezzo.
            Much more elegant, IMO.

            Only caught the very start, but her voice did sound lovely.
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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30507

              #7
              Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
              I did feel the need to double check before making a fool of myself on here - after all, BBC announcers do sometimes get it right. Ms Whately also got it wrong when she announced her encore, but was maybe just following the announcer. More to the point, I did enjoy the recital and found out that Kitty is the daughter of Morse sidekick, Kevin Whately.
              Ah, I did note there was an item featuring her on Breakfast this morning: presumably as a trail to the recital ...
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Old Grumpy
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3652

                #8
                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                I did feel the need to double check before making a fool of myself on here - after all, BBC announcers do sometimes get it right. Ms Whately also got it wrong when she announced her encore, but was maybe just following the announcer. More to the point, I did enjoy the recital and found out that Kitty is the daughter of Morse sidekick, Kevin Whately.
                Indeed - and Mr, Mrs and Miss Whately were to be heard here - and very good they were too!

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                • antongould
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8836

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                  Indeed - and Mr, Mrs and Miss Whately were to be heard here - and very good they were too!

                  I once gave Mrs Lewis, I mean Whately, a lift .......does that make me famous?

                  To my shame I never knew about their daughter........

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                  • Old Grumpy
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3652

                    #10
                    Originally posted by antongould View Post

                    To my shame I never knew about their daughter........
                    She is a current New Generation Artist

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                    • Cockney Sparrow
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2292

                      #11
                      I agree she is a very engaging singer and has a good career, now and in the future.

                      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                      She is a current New Generation Artist[/URL]
                      This also means we shall be hearing her and reference to that fact well into the next decade and beyond, at any and every opportunity. The BBC is, in the words of Alan Sugar "very corporate"....... (its difficult to imagine it becoming any more self serving, and relentlessy cross referencing, self publicising/promoting, but I suppose I just have to wait and I'll see that happen.).

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        #12
                        Just heard a KD classic, closing the lunchtime recital (which I'd missed the start of) - her pronunciation of the pianist's name was completely unintelligible - she said it three times in the space of a minute, and I hadn't the faintest idea who it was, a sort of verbal squiggle. It was Simon TrpĨeski, I see from the Radio Times - not the easiest I grant you. Curious, I found this on t'internet - perfectly audible and repeatable - actually comes across as three separate syllables, rather than a monosyllabic gabble. Why does she do it?

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                        • Ravensbourne
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 100

                          #13
                          Ingvar Lidholm

                          According to Nicola Heywood Thomas, Ingvar Lidholm is a composer from Swindon.

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                            Just heard a KD classic, closing the lunchtime recital (which I'd missed the start of) - her pronunciation of the pianist's name was completely unintelligible - she said it three times in the space of a minute, and I hadn't the faintest idea who it was, a sort of verbal squiggle...
                            I understood her perfectly - but then, I was at the concert.

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                            • Padraig
                              Full Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 4251

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              I understood her perfectly
                              Reminds me of school. A teacher enters the staffroom, fuming, fit to be tied. S/he gives out reams of painful frustration at the insolent behaviour of a certain pupil, and heads nod in sympathetic agreement all round the room. Then someone pipes up "I have no problem in my class."

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