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  • slarty
    • Dec 2024

    Brahms-Schumann cycle

    Beginning on Monday 22nd, december and continuing through the week, Afternoon Concert is presenting Simon Rattle and the BPO's Schumann-Brahms Symphonic cycle which was performed at the Berlin Festival on four evenings last september.

    The concerts paired the same numbered symphonies together for each concert.
    One curiosity - Schumann's 4th was given in it's original 1841 version and not the generally accepted version.

    Strange decision as all the other symphonies were presented in their normally accepted forms.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    #2
    Originally posted by slarty View Post
    Beginning on Monday 22nd, december and continuing through the week, Afternoon Concert is presenting Simon Rattle and the BPO's Schumann-Brahms Symphonic cycle which was performed at the Berlin Festival on four evenings last september.

    The concerts paired the same numbered symphonies together for each concert.
    One curiosity - Schumann's 4th was given in it's original 1841 version and not the generally accepted version.

    Strange decision as all the other symphonies were presented in their normally accepted forms.
    Even stranger, therefore, that the pairings are not chronological. That would have been Schumann 4,1,2,3, along with Brahms 1,2,3,4.

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    • amateur51

      #3
      Me? I'm just glad to be able to hear these performances of this marvellous music.

      Bravo all!

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        Me? I'm just glad to be able to hear these performances of this marvellous music.


        Are there such far-reaching revisions to the other seven symphonies as those between the 1841 original and normally accepted 1851 revision?
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Bryn
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          #5
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Even stranger, therefore, that the pairings are not chronological. That would have been Schumann 4,1,2,3, along with Brahms 1,2,3,4.
          They should have performed both versions or the '1st' (as Mackerras did at the EIF in 1999) and then added the Schoenberg orchestration of the Brahms Piano Quartet Op. 25 to even things up.

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          • amateur51

            #6
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            They should have performed both versions or the '1st' (as Mackerras did at the EIF in 1999) and then added the Schoenberg orchestration of the Brahms Piano Quartet Op. 25 to even things up.


            The Brahms/Schoenberg is a Rattle speciality too, for which he was once publicly scolded by Alfred Brendel, not entirely seriously as Brendel stayed for the performance in RFH and was enthusiastic in his applause from a box
            Last edited by Guest; 20-12-14, 10:22. Reason: capital

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            • slarty

              #7
              Having already heard the original broadcasts, I can heartily recommend the concerts.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                Hmmm I could think of better works than these pairings, just sound boring, or shall I say dry?
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26572

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  Hmmm I could think of better works than these pairings, just sound boring, or shall I say dry?


                  I shouldn't imagine anyone would mind if you did...
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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