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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30256

    BBC Young Musician 2014

    The section finalists, broadcasts and presenters. This stands a half decent chance of being intelligently presented - we shall have to see what the production is like. Some thoughts occur but I shall suppress them
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
  • teamsaint
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 25202

    #2
    Thanks FF.

    Thank goodness they didn't put a load of self congratulatory guff at the bottom about BBC arts, that would have spoiled everything.


    Alison Balsom must have a good agent. Not that she doesn't play a good choon, of course.
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30256

      #3
      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      Thanks FF.

      Thank goodness they didn't put a load of self congratulatory guff at the bottom about BBC arts, that would have spoiled everything.


      Alison Balsom must have a good agent. Not that she doesn't play a good choon, of course.
      The idea being to grab a trio of glamorous under-40 role models who will impress the audience, I presume ... though I did smile at the BBC explaining the aim 'to put musicians centre-screen'. I hope they don't outshine the young musicians in the competition!
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • mercia
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8920

        #4
        wasn't our complaint last time that too much time was spent looking at their home/school lives and not enough hearing them play ?

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30256

          #5
          Originally posted by mercia View Post
          wasn't our complaint last time that too much time was spent looking at their home/school lives and not enough hearing them play ?
          Yes, and as far as I remember, there was speaking over the music too. Not sure whether it was last time or the one before. The aim, clearly, to show that these are just 'ordinary' young people who do the kind of thing all young people do, hence not really freaks. Which is fine, but proper attention to the young people's performances would be equally (?) important.
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Barbirollians
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11672

            #6
            Two very talented musicians though - better than having it presented by Charles Hazlewood and Clemency Burton Hill .

            How things have changed - the final used to be live on BBC1 .

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            • amateur51

              #7
              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

              Alison Balsom must have a good agent. Not that she doesn't play a good choon, of course.
              It's at times like this that I don't miss Mr Pee

              Come to think of it ...

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25202

                #8
                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                It's at times like this that I don't miss Mr Pee

                Come to think of it ...
                what you on about Amsy?

                are you saying that Mr Pee is her agent? or that he would do a better job? I am quite literally baffled.
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • amateur51

                  #9
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  what you on about Amsy?

                  are you saying that Mr Pee is her agent? or that he would do a better job? I am quite literally baffled.
                  Mr Pee often used to go into 'phnurr-phnurr'-mode when certain young female musicians were mentioned and Ms Balsom was one of his favourites

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25202

                    #10
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    Mr Pee often used to go into 'phnurr-phnurr'-mode when certain young female musicians were mentioned and Ms Balsom was one of his favourites
                    ah, the green Oboe/clarinet/whatever......

                    Thanks for elaborating.................I don't want to take this excellent thread off topic with a series of smutty innuendos .............well I do actually, but I won't.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30256

                      #11
                      While we're waiting - this is what Jessica Duchen had to say about the competition in 2012. I think it must have been the previous one, though, that got all the flak.

                      No, it was 2008 (oh, how time flies!). This is what Susan Tomes had to say.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Ariosto

                        #12
                        No one seems to be commenting on the string final which was broadcast (recording) on BBC 4 last night. Four fiddlers and a harpist. I would be interested in views from forum members.

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          It's at times like this that I don't miss Mr Pee
                          Never heard of him

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                          • Mary Chambers
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ariosto View Post
                            No one seems to be commenting on the string final which was broadcast (recording) on BBC 4 last night. Four fiddlers and a harpist. I would be interested in views from forum members.
                            I still don't like the way it's presented, but I was impressed by what music I heard. I always find the BBCYM very reassuring. It counteracts the deadly youth culture we're normally faced with.

                            It must have been very difficult to choose a winner from such a talented group. I'd have been torn between Ruisi and Dutton. Ruisi chose a more interesting programme, I thought, but Dutton had a completeness about him which was very appealing.

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25202

                              #15
                              I'm afraid that I don't see it as reassuring at all.

                              Our society and culture encourages excellence in far too narrow a range of activities at far too young an age.
                              This is all too evident in schools, where very narrow academic criteria are lauded, and box ticking reigns.
                              Music , and young people with musical talent, of whom there are many,would be much better served by a much greater emphasis on creativity over very narrow performance criteria.BBCYMY is a reflection of all this IMO


                              I would agree that much of the Wider culture that surrounds young people is pretty disastrous.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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