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  • amateur51

    #31
    Originally posted by Cellini View Post
    Oh dear. A conducting debut means that I would have to have given up being a real musician!!

    No thanks, I don't want to lose my creativity and just wave my arms about and make myself look silly and very unpopular too!!

    Better become a toilet cleaner, at least that job is usefull to society.
    Did you catch the film about Previn & his opera 'The Kindness of Strangers' on BBC4 recently, Cellini?

    He has some very interesting remarks to make about the role/art of conductor and creator/composer which I think you would enjoy

    A portrait of the composer, conductor, jazz pianist and Oscar-winner Andre Previn.


    Available til 18 March

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    • Mr Pee
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3285

      #32
      Concert 1:-

      1. Elgar In the South
      2. Ravel Ma Mere L'Oye Suite

      Interval

      3. Korngold Violin Concerto (With Maxim Vengerov)
      4. Wagner Brunnhilde's Immolation Scene, from Gotterdammerung, (With Jessye Norman!)

      Concert 2:-

      1. Ibert Divertissement
      2. Elgar Sospiri
      3. Kodaly Dances of Galanta

      Interval

      4. Strauss Ein Heldenleben
      Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

      Mark Twain.

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      • Cellini

        #33
        TV

        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
        Did you catch the film about Previn & his opera 'The Kindness of Strangers' on BBC4 recently, Cellini?

        He has some very interesting remarks to make about the role/art of conductor and creator/composer which I think you would enjoy

        A portrait of the composer, conductor, jazz pianist and Oscar-winner Andre Previn.



        Available til 18 March
        It's too long!! I like my info in pint size chunks, without all the boring stuff padding the programme out. I don't have TV partly for that reason.

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        • amateur51

          #34
          Originally posted by Cellini View Post
          It's too long!! I like my info in pint size chunks, without all the boring stuff padding the programme out. I don't have TV partly for that reason.
          I'll take that as a 'no' then Cellini

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          • Suffolkcoastal
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3290

            #35
            These would have to reflect my special interests in music:

            Concert I

            Roy Harris: Symphony No 7
            Walter Piston: Violin Concerto No 1

            Interval

            Howard Hanson: Elegy for Serge Koussevitsky
            David Diamond: Symphony No 3
            (this would mean daringly ending with a quiet very beautiful slow movement)


            Concert II

            Britten: Suite on English Folktunes 'A Time there Was'
            Moeran: Violin Concerto

            Interval

            Holst: Egdon Heath
            Vaughan Williams: Symphony No 9

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            • offbeat

              #36
              mmm if only...........

              Concert 1 (romantic)
              Brahms Tragic Overture
              Brahms Piano Concerto 2
              Rachmaninov Symphony 3

              Concert 2 (20 century)
              Stravinsky Symphony in Three Movements
              Sibelius Tapiola
              Shostakovich Symphony 8

              Probably need a good lie down after that ...............

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20564

                #37
                Originally posted by Cellini View Post
                Everyone is taking this thread so seriously!! Think about it, you are all in cloud cuckoo land.
                That's what makes it such fun.

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6437

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  That's what makes it such fun.
                  Yes !

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                  • StephenO

                    #39
                    Originally posted by maestro267 View Post
                    Programme 1
                    Strauss: Tod und Verklarung
                    Mahler: Symphony No. 2 in C minor (Resurrection)
                    That's exactly what I was going to say! Great minds...

                    So it'll have to be -

                    Concert 1

                    Ades: Living Toys
                    Mahler: Ruckert Lieder

                    Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

                    Concert 2

                    Rachmaninov: The Isle of the Dead
                    Sibelius: Violin Concerto

                    Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony.

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                    • Alf-Prufrock

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post

                      Cardew: The Great Learing, Paragraph 1.
                      I suppose you are hoping that the gurning would only be on your part, eh ?

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12164

                        #41
                        Originally posted by StephenO View Post
                        That's exactly what I was going to say! Great minds...

                        So it'll have to be -

                        Concert 1

                        Ades: Living Toys
                        Mahler: Ruckert Lieder

                        Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie

                        Concert 2

                        Rachmaninov: The Isle of the Dead
                        Sibelius: Violin Concerto

                        Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony.
                        Great programmes, StephenO!
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Simon B
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 779

                          #42
                          It rather depends which top London orchestra as they have distinct characters. Since this is all cloud cuckoo land anyway, if I could be left to flap about meaninglessly in front of the LSO for one concert and the Philharmonia for another while they got on with playing the music between themselves (which they do anyway in reality sometimes!):

                          Concert 1, LSO
                          Shostakovich: Suite from Hypothetically Murdered
                          Prokofiev: Symphony No 6

                          Tchaikovsky: Symphony No 6

                          Concert 2, Philharmonia
                          Elgar: Cockaigne Overture
                          Arnold: Symphony No 5

                          Walton: Belshazzar's Feast

                          Having actually tried conducting orchestras in the distant past, the last thing I'd want them to do is actually take any notice - that would spell disaster for all concerned!

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12164

                            #43
                            You do all realise, don't you, that should I be the lucky winner of this Friday's £90million Euromillions jackpot I will be making all these wishes a reality..........
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • 3rd Viennese School

                              #44
                              It will be a concert featuring all the Richards.

                              Richard Strauss An Alpine Symphony
                              Richard Barratt No

                              And after the interval…………

                              Richard that’s me. Symphony no.3.

                              Now there’s a problem with this. I don’t know the Richard Barratt well enough (I have it though)
                              I don’t much like Richard Strauss. Or the Alpine Symphony. And I’ve only heard it once.

                              And not only have I not written no.3 yet except some of the tunes I’m not sure how it would be orchestrated as I can’t do that either.


                              It will be a sell out.

                              3VS

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                              • Eudaimonia

                                #45
                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                I think the clue lies in the word 'Imaginary', Euda
                                Haha! Well, just for fun (and in the spirit of perversity), Simon B's comment sent me off to the London orchestra staff pages to see if there's anyone I'd actually be tempted to take up on a "casting couch" offer...a plethora of noes, "oh HELL noes" and a couple of maybes.

                                Besides, as a conductor I'm sure I'd make myself quite unpopular among the musicians by being so nitpicky...I can just imagine Cellini hunched over, grumbling to his stand mate and rolling his eyes at me. Of course, I'd take it personally and grind him mercilessly, forcing him to play the disputed passage in question over and over in front of everybody. By this time, the whole orchestra hates me--and the night of the performance, good old C plays it the way he wanted to all along.

                                Realistic enough for you?

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